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How I feel about Miles Tenure and the incoming change
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:02 am
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:02 am
This exactly right here, I dont post much, I really enjoy observing fellow LSU fans and people close and not so close to the program but let me say my piece here....
I am not going to trash Les Miles as a man or a representative of the university or the state I was born in, he has done a great job at that.
He has really maintained what Saban brought back to the program, although I am not a Saban apologist (he left us for Miami not Alabama). Les has an incredible record as our coach for these last 11 years but what Miles apologists are missing is what most are saying here. The last 5 years is what he is being judged on and if you look at the repeated patterns (especially on the offensive side of the ball) and continuing the lack of development for QBs, slipping on recruiting, the man is the singular problem with this.
Jamarcus was the last good QB we had, guess who he had his tutelage from? JIMBO, THATS right, Skyler Green, Devery Henderson, Michael Clayton, Mauck, Joseph Addai, remember how those players and our bruising offense made you feel in Death Valley? It was under JIMBO
People we were LUCKY to win the 2007 BCS Title, we had to have 3 teams lose in the same weekend and win the SEC title just to have a shot. We lost to two inferior teams (especially Arkansas at home) when that was arguably one of the best teams we've ever had. We were clearly the favorite that year in the country. Minus the Florida game, when was the last time we willed ourselves to a win and showed that mental toughness like the 2003 or this team? You know what analysts say about that team? ONLY TEAM TO WIN THE TITLE WITH 2 LOSSES, WHAT TYPE OF LEGACY IS THAT FOR THAT TEAM??? Ask yourself how was Miles the key to winning the title???
In 2011, we had an excellent chance at winning another national championship in our backyard for the 3rd time in the last 10 years, and what do we do? We have no gameplan and get blasted at home and never even get past the 50. How is it that Jarrett Lee never even gets a chance in that game? How is it that JJ starts over Lee during the season when clearly the team was behind Lee??? Ask yourself, what did Miles do to get us there? He held us hostage for a raise for fricking Arkansas?? Really?
The poor clock management (2009 Ole Miss, 2013 Tennessee really?) Calling timeout in last weeks game at the end? Seriously? The penalties, the undisciplined teams and the slow starts, when is the last time we have we jumped on someone and kept the pedal down the whole
game?
You let Ryan Perriloux and Mathieu go but kept that abomination that was JJ including JJ getting drunk the night before the title game and getting dragged into the hotel by a senior DB along with all the seniors asking Miles before game to start Lee and that they would not play for JJ and yet he still did what he did to us. Laugh all you want, it meant alot for everyone in this state, we are PROUD, and frick you Bama fans, you are the same inside.
You turned down Bridgewater, Dak was just a TE, you got Russell Shepard for what? You hired Crowton and Cameron along with Peveto and we had to fricking beg for you to hire Orgeron (a recruiting legend and a man who truly loves this state), you hired a known failure at DC as our DC, the least qualified individual, its beyond ridiculous.
You let Eddie Lacy and Landon Collins leave our own backyard, they went to Dutch Town HS, 10 miles away from the campus, how do you let that happen?
We have had some great wins and nailbiters with Les and I thank him for what hes done for us in his 11 years but I have never seen an LSU team (yes I was there for the Dinardo years) get pushed around at night in Death Valley like we did against Arkansas and not recover, the way we lost to Bama and Ole Miss, the team isnt ready, this team doesnt show any passion or heart nor pride for our state. This has been the tune since 01/09/2012 and thats on Les, the program is in a downslide and its real people. Ask yourself, how come Landry, Hunter, Kwon, Odell Beckham, Jeremy Hill and various other recent graduates are tearing it up in the NFL but played on mediocre LSU teams?
Before anyone calls me a negatiger, I supported Miles from day one and argued with many a good friends defending him and his legacy but you cant escape the facts and results, its time for a change and everyone knows it.
Lastly, I want everyone to look up how our state/university got the name "Fighting Tigers". Can Les Miles be considered a Fighting Tiger with his efforts and moves the last 5 years? Are you a proud Louisiana fighting tiger? I am and I am about my state, university and what is best for our program not Les Miles.
I am not going to trash Les Miles as a man or a representative of the university or the state I was born in, he has done a great job at that.
He has really maintained what Saban brought back to the program, although I am not a Saban apologist (he left us for Miami not Alabama). Les has an incredible record as our coach for these last 11 years but what Miles apologists are missing is what most are saying here. The last 5 years is what he is being judged on and if you look at the repeated patterns (especially on the offensive side of the ball) and continuing the lack of development for QBs, slipping on recruiting, the man is the singular problem with this.
Jamarcus was the last good QB we had, guess who he had his tutelage from? JIMBO, THATS right, Skyler Green, Devery Henderson, Michael Clayton, Mauck, Joseph Addai, remember how those players and our bruising offense made you feel in Death Valley? It was under JIMBO
People we were LUCKY to win the 2007 BCS Title, we had to have 3 teams lose in the same weekend and win the SEC title just to have a shot. We lost to two inferior teams (especially Arkansas at home) when that was arguably one of the best teams we've ever had. We were clearly the favorite that year in the country. Minus the Florida game, when was the last time we willed ourselves to a win and showed that mental toughness like the 2003 or this team? You know what analysts say about that team? ONLY TEAM TO WIN THE TITLE WITH 2 LOSSES, WHAT TYPE OF LEGACY IS THAT FOR THAT TEAM??? Ask yourself how was Miles the key to winning the title???
In 2011, we had an excellent chance at winning another national championship in our backyard for the 3rd time in the last 10 years, and what do we do? We have no gameplan and get blasted at home and never even get past the 50. How is it that Jarrett Lee never even gets a chance in that game? How is it that JJ starts over Lee during the season when clearly the team was behind Lee??? Ask yourself, what did Miles do to get us there? He held us hostage for a raise for fricking Arkansas?? Really?
The poor clock management (2009 Ole Miss, 2013 Tennessee really?) Calling timeout in last weeks game at the end? Seriously? The penalties, the undisciplined teams and the slow starts, when is the last time we have we jumped on someone and kept the pedal down the whole
game?
You let Ryan Perriloux and Mathieu go but kept that abomination that was JJ including JJ getting drunk the night before the title game and getting dragged into the hotel by a senior DB along with all the seniors asking Miles before game to start Lee and that they would not play for JJ and yet he still did what he did to us. Laugh all you want, it meant alot for everyone in this state, we are PROUD, and frick you Bama fans, you are the same inside.
You turned down Bridgewater, Dak was just a TE, you got Russell Shepard for what? You hired Crowton and Cameron along with Peveto and we had to fricking beg for you to hire Orgeron (a recruiting legend and a man who truly loves this state), you hired a known failure at DC as our DC, the least qualified individual, its beyond ridiculous.
You let Eddie Lacy and Landon Collins leave our own backyard, they went to Dutch Town HS, 10 miles away from the campus, how do you let that happen?
We have had some great wins and nailbiters with Les and I thank him for what hes done for us in his 11 years but I have never seen an LSU team (yes I was there for the Dinardo years) get pushed around at night in Death Valley like we did against Arkansas and not recover, the way we lost to Bama and Ole Miss, the team isnt ready, this team doesnt show any passion or heart nor pride for our state. This has been the tune since 01/09/2012 and thats on Les, the program is in a downslide and its real people. Ask yourself, how come Landry, Hunter, Kwon, Odell Beckham, Jeremy Hill and various other recent graduates are tearing it up in the NFL but played on mediocre LSU teams?
Before anyone calls me a negatiger, I supported Miles from day one and argued with many a good friends defending him and his legacy but you cant escape the facts and results, its time for a change and everyone knows it.
Lastly, I want everyone to look up how our state/university got the name "Fighting Tigers". Can Les Miles be considered a Fighting Tiger with his efforts and moves the last 5 years? Are you a proud Louisiana fighting tiger? I am and I am about my state, university and what is best for our program not Les Miles.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:03 am to LSUTigers9458
I feel like not reading a novella
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:03 am to LSUTigers9458
Martiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnn GRAMATICCCCAAAAAAAAAAAA
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:03 am to LSUTigers9458
I was waiting to see what LSUTigers9458 had to say on this matter. Now I can go to bed
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 12:03 am
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:03 am to LSUTigers9458
Holy shite. That's a lot of words
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:03 am to LSUTigers9458
quote:
Jamarcus was the last good QB we had
I dislike the job Miles has done but I stopped here. Mettenberger was a stud. Harris will be too.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 12:04 am
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:05 am to Schmelly
quote:
Jamarcus was the last good QB we had, guess who he had his tutelage from? JIMBO, THATS right, Skyler Green, Devery Henderson, Michael Clayton, Mauck, Joseph Addai, remember how those players and our bruising offense made you feel in Death Valley? It was under JIMBO
The good ole days under Jimbo.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:08 am to bnh
Have an upvote. It was long, but attacked most of the points that most of us feel strongly about.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:08 am to LSUTigers9458
Well, at least you got it all off your chest.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 12:08 am
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:09 am to Tunasntigers92
Have an upvote gentlemen for your patience lol
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:09 am to LSUTigers9458
No comments yet on the 1/9/12 revelation?
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:10 am to someoldhussy
Mettenberger was a gift. He didn't start here did he?
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:12 am to belowmebama
quote:
A jehovah witness knocked at my door and I preferred to speak with them instead of reading all that. That should tell you something.
Are you prepared for Jehovah's return cause if you not...
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:13 am to LSUTigers9458
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:13 am to belowmebama
Yeah tells me your attention span isn't very long.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:14 am to zoom
I'll be sad. I've been an LSU fan since watching the Tigers in the early 70's, some of the first memories as a kid. I remember Jim Hawthorne calling games when I didn't have cable tv, and the Tigers weren't on that often in the 80's. Suffered like everyone through the 90's but the past 15 years have been the best of all, and coach Miles was a big part of it. I think he's ill and it's time for him to go, but I'll be a bit sad. I've been as critical as others, but it's just football. Miles tenure at LSU was extremely positive, though sometimes exasperating. I'll miss him.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
Agree Roger, it is ultimately bittersweet but I believe its time for a change
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:21 am to LSUTigers9458
It is bittersweet. I'm a sentimental guy, I'll miss him. It's time to move on however.
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