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re: How has the Dline performance since the Guillory injury?

Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:41 am to
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:41 am to
LB play is more concerning to me. Our of position and completely out of the play way too many times
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:50 am to
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Hell the one where the QB broke the long TD Suggs got rag dolled across the field while the other DT got chicken flipped but redfish will just tell you it was a called slant to the ground so that the turf monster could make the tackle.


No I would tell you Swinson busted his assignment and played the give instead of playing the QB on Power Read. Do you know what power read is? I never once said there was a slant on that play. Lies lies and more lies.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:52 am to
You’re so pathetic. You know that was a joke and you did say what happened didn’t happen and wasn’t happening. It’s amazing how your type attempts to gaslight every time you’re exposed. That shite doesn’t work, go apply for a job with the media.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:56 am to
What is power read?
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:56 am to
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You very clearly lack football knowledge. Might want to take a break.


No. He knows everything about football and basketball. Just ask him, he's never been wrong and knows everything. He's almost always the only one with his opinion too.
Posted by Madking
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58982 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:57 am to
Did the DTs get wiped out on that play?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:03 am to
No truth detected, this very thread proves you wrong yet you still make the false claim. Very telling
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 8:04 am
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:05 am to
I’ll go back and watch later and let you know. But the reason Power Read went for a TD was bc if Swinson not playing his assignment. Again. What is power read?
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:05 am to
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Just not true. Multiple posters in multiple threads have explained that the vast majority of the yardage given up against SC were bust in assignments. We’ve even broken down the individual plays. Hopefully we continue to improve so these bust don’t happen but putting it on the interior DL is dishonest. Now over the course of the season I see where the interior Dline could be an issue for us but they weren’t against SC.


Trying to say I put it on the entire DL is dishonest.
They have some blame as well as the LB and S.
If you have a hole big enough a car can drive through that is on the DLine somewhat getting blew off the ball.
Just like it is the LB job to make a tackle in the hole and not pick the wrong spot to be in as was the case.
Then if that fails it's the S job to make the final tackle.
We saw failures at all three levels on the big runs.

To say it isn't on the DLine at all is really dishonest.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:06 am to
Wrong
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:08 am to
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Yep, they want you to repeat the lie that other than 2 long runs we shut them down but in reality they gashed us for a few chunk plays. One where Suggs got blown 4 yards back and created a huge lane. Hell the one where the QB broke the long TD Suggs got rag dolled across the field while the other DT got chicken flipped but redfish will just tell you it was a called slant to the ground so that the turf monster could make the tackle.


Yep but like I said they are dishonest. Not saying saying all the issues is the DLine fault because it isn't but they play a part in it as well.
In order for the runner to get to the second and third level of the defense that means the DLine is getting whooped.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:09 am to
I said almost always . Not always and when I said that I hadn't read the whole thread
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:13 am to
Admitted to being wrong twice yesterday, haven’t attacked you once. What’s with the slander and false claims, if you have an argument let’s discuss. Why be a bitch?
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:15 am to
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To say it isn't on the DLine at all is really dishonest.


Swinson was the reason for the long Sellers run. He’s on the Dline. I said the interior Dline played solid. Which they did.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:16 am to
Exactly, my point isn’t that LBs and safeties haven’t been out of position but like you say when the interior guys are getting blown up it creates a domino effect. This is why I said just watch the video but that guy can’t admit it, even when the coach and former Olineman are saying it, so he’s desperately looking for excuses to the point of completely misrepresenting what’s happening.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 8:18 am
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:23 am to
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Exactly, my point isn’t that LBs and safeties haven’t been out of position but like you say when the interior guys are getting blown up it creates a domino effect. This is why I said just watch the video but that guy can’t admit it so he’s desperately looking for excuses to the point of completely misrepresenting what’s happening.



I agree. DLine getting blown off ball. They aren't playing terribly but we just don't have elite bodies there yet.
The Sanders run and multiple other runs when you know they are going to run and still are successful is having a good scheme and game plan but not good enough to overcome the lack of talent.
We have been recruiting well so we will definitely bring in more talent.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 8:25 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:26 am to
It happened on the long run vs Nicholls too. Instead of playing their gap, trying to get a push and being disciplined, both DTs are trying to knife through because they can’t hold up and they created a huge hole. This is something they do a lot and Kelly keeps harping on it but I’m not sure they’re physically capable.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:32 am to
The DL guys aren’t up the to the LSU standard for sure. I’m just pointing out that on most of those long runs it’s not a “getting blown off the ball” issue. It’s a playing your assignment issue. It’s painfully obvious for anybody that knows how football works. The Sellers TD is the perfect example. Swinson is unblocked bc they are reading him. He should play the QB and force the give. He doesn’t so the backside guard wraps and gets our LB which springs Sellers free. If Swinson stays home and forces the give he also takes out that puller leaving 3/4 free players to rally and tackle the give. Kelly even said it in his presser that the long runs are assignments issues and are fixable.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:35 am to
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It happened on the long run vs Nicholls too.


On the Nichols run looks like a DL slant but the DL gets whipped and blown off the ball which makes things really hard for Perkins. I thought the interior DL played well against SC. They did not against Nicholls.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:36 am to
Are you blind or just too proud to admit you’re wrong. Stopping the play was on Swinson, it’s his play to make but the reason for the giant cutback hole is because both our DTs got blown away, one put on the ground, the other pushed across the field. That caused the TD, for someone who “knows football” so well to think one guy is the designated tackler on every play is pretty stupid.
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