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re: How did we lose 3 games in 2001 with a team loaded with nfl players?

Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:37 pm to
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I want to know something.... What happens if ND beats LSU and they end up at 8-5???? 


Why dont you let the game play out before forecasting a loss? If ND wins it will be considered a huge black eye.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:40 pm to
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They have over romanticized his tenure to be something it wasn't.


They see the Saban at Alabama & what he has accomplished there, as the same coach that was at LSU. That isn't the case. His failures with the Dolphins made him an even more focused & determined coach. He cleaned up aspects of "The Process" that lead to negative outcomes previously. Just as failure can motivate a great athlete to accomplish historic feats on the field, the same goes for coaches.

Saban didn't maximize his potential at LSU due to certain flaws in his coaching style & approach. He's since cleaned up those flaws & Alabama's program is benefiting from those changes. Nobody is shitting on Saban here. Only a narrow minded fool would think that. The point is that Saban transformed from being a really good coach at LSU to being possibly the greatest at Alabama but without failing in Miami, his transformation may not have taken place.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:43 pm to
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You have been sucking


I only see one person currently sucking in this thread.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:43 pm to
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You have been sucking Miles dick since you came to this board.......... 


Do you not see how stupid you appear? I state facts about Miles tenure. Im sorry that those fact paint miles in a positive light, but they remain facts. Ive always said miles has problems with projecting talent at the qb position. Ive always questioned miles player rotation in games and his playcalling. Im sorry i wont use BIASED OPINION to shite on lsu's coach.
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want to know something.... What happens if ND beats LSU and they end up at 8-5???? 


Whats sad i that there is a portion of lsu "fans" including you, that is hoping for this.
If we lose, we lose. I dont let a game, played by kids, determine how my day goes. Some people do.you seem like one of those people.
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What excuses will you come up with.....

Ill give an honest assessment of the game.
Just like when Saban lost to UAB.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Why dont you let the game play out before forecasting a loss?



I am picking LSU to win this game... The talent gap is huge in LSU'S favor... But it was the same at Arkie... But in this case LSU should be able to control the ball with the power running game and SHOULD win with ease........


But if they come out flat and not ready to play???? That's all on Miles.... Bottom line IF your team doesn't want to play in a BOWL game?? Don't even go.......
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:45 pm to
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I only see one person currently sucking in this thread


Right.its sad that he has to shite on Miles just to prop Saban up. Ive never understood how someone could love a past coach more than the program. When Miles leaves, i wont be shitting on Jon Gruden:), to prop up miles.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:49 pm to
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They see the Saban at Alabama & what he has accomplished there, as the same coach that was at LSU. That isn't the case. His failures with the Dolphins made him an even more focused & determined coach. He cleaned up aspects of "The Process" that lead to negative outcomes previously. Just as failure can motivate a great athlete to accomplish historic feats on the field, the same goes for coaches. 

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Saban didn't maximize his potential at LSU due to certain flaws in his coaching style & approach. He's since cleaned up those flaws & Alabama's program is benefiting from those changes. Nobody is shitting on Saban here. Only a narrow minded fool would think that. The point is that Saban transformed from being a really good coach at LSU to being possibly the greatest at Alabama but without failing in Miami, his transformation may not have taken place.



Spot on. I have to tell poster on here, Saban at lsu isnt Saban at bama..

ETA: i had to reply to couple posters that actually thought i was shitting on our 2001 sec title.
This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Whats sad i that there is a portion of lsu "fans" including you, that is hoping for this.



Not at all... I want LSU to win..... and they should,, But again YOU can't answer a simple fricking question..............


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Just like when Saban lost to UAB.




You can't go ONE post without bashing Saban at what he did at LSU.... AGAIN you have NOT commented in a positive way about ANY games Saban won here... All you have said is you [thank] him for being here..........

So I guess Stoops totally outcoach Nick in the title game right??? And Richct totally outcoached Saban in the SEC title game right..........
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:51 pm to
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But if they come out flat and not ready to play???? That's all on Miles.... Bottom line IF your team doesn't want to play in a BOWL game?? Don't even go.......


Alabama v. Oklahoma
Alabama v. Utah
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26777 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:51 pm to
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No they werent ranked. Which is what you had. UF wasnt good in 2003. They lost 5 games. So what i missed their 1 other decent win. They werent good.


Huh? This is what I had:


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Completely incorrect - Florida beat #6 (LSU), #11 (Arkansas) and #4 (Georgia) in consecutive weeks. All three of those teams went to bowl games and won their bowl game. So they beat the eventual National Champs, the SEC East Champs and a 9-win Arkansas team.


After you said that Florida lost to every good team they played but LSU, I posted who Florida beat, their rank at the time and what those teams accomplished by the end of the season. I think that is very clear since we all know LSU finished better than #6. Florida ended up ranked in the top 25 in both polls - the usual benchmark for defining a team as pretty good. Yes, you missed one other great win against the SEC East Champs while posting their worst loss of the season in their bowl game. You can throw out Arkansas if you want and they still beat the BCS National Champions and the #7 (#6 in Coaches Poll) team in the nation in the final polls. Any team would be proud to have those Ws on their resume at the end of the year. Florida wasn't great in 2003, but they were a decent team.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Alabama v. Oklahoma Alabama v. Utah


I agree...............


LSU.vs. Penn St. LSU vs.Bama LSU vs. Clemson
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:58 pm to
I'll give you Bama. We beat JoePa if Navarro Bowman doesn't sit on our QB. Delay of game on the D turned into an offensive PI.

Clemson was a competitive game against a good team. Wouldn't call it not showing up.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:00 pm to
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We beat JoePa if Navarro Bowman doesn't sit on our QB. Delay of game on the D turned into an offensive PI.



REF excuses... SAD you are.........


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Clemson was a competitive game against a good team. Wouldn't call it not showing up.


The team was totally disinterested to be there after the 1st quarter... Just go back and look at how Clemson DOMINATED LSU on the stat sheet... IF LSU had been focused they should have rolled Clemson..........
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11965 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:04 pm to
I would trade Miles for Saban in a heartbeat.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:07 pm to
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How did we lose 3 games in 2001 with a team loaded with nfl players?


gave up waaaaay too many points on defense
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:07 pm to
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I would trade Miles for Saban in a heartbeat.




Right now???????
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11965 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Right now???????
Sure. I would rather have Saban at any point in their careers.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:13 pm to
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Sure. I would rather have Saban at any point in their careers.



Sorry I misread..........

Yes I would take Saban in aheartbeat and there ALOT of Miles dick-suckers that hate Saban cause he didn't stay ..........
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42470 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:15 pm to
You calling anyone a coach dick sucker is hilarious. You are obsessed with saban. I feel bad for you that you can't even be an lsu fan without bringing up saban with everything. Sad existence.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 2:20 pm to
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You are obsessed with saban


I only hang with THE BEST. He is the BEST.


Now go play in your sandbox..........
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