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Posted on 8/1/09 at 5:09 pm to dukke v
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A DUMB ALTER!!!!
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Dukke V - a dumb ranter...
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Dukke V - a dumb ranter...
Posted on 8/1/09 at 5:12 pm to Thoreauxbred
This was an interesting topic to jump in on as an Ole Miss fan. What you saw in 2008 was a situation where not recruiting a Quarterback in 2006 which was his first actual class, came back to haunt him. So far, Miles has only won with Saban quarterbacks. He still has to prove he can win with his own. I understand the Ryan Perilloux argument but I think you have to recruit and start the development of a 2006 quarterback for insurance purposes and low and behold not doing it bit him in the butt. As prideful of a program as LSU is there is absolutely no logical excuse for being as pitiful as you were at QB last year. It was actually painful to watch and I don't really like LSU unless they are playing OOC.
I also read someone say Houston Nutt was a gameday coach but not a recruiter. I actually think he's a better recruiter than gameday coach. Arkansas and Ole Miss are both very hard places to recruit to but he did win the SEC west twice with his own recruits. He also came to Baton rouge with his own recruits and beat LSU in 07. So to suggest he can't recruit is not logical. Arkansas only produces 1/5 the amount of D1 athletes Louisana does.
I also read someone say Houston Nutt was a gameday coach but not a recruiter. I actually think he's a better recruiter than gameday coach. Arkansas and Ole Miss are both very hard places to recruit to but he did win the SEC west twice with his own recruits. He also came to Baton rouge with his own recruits and beat LSU in 07. So to suggest he can't recruit is not logical. Arkansas only produces 1/5 the amount of D1 athletes Louisana does.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 5:27 pm to dukke v
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AGREED!! A coach that makes HIS money should NOT be 8-5!!
How much did your boy Saban make for his 7-6 in 2007 at Bama PJ?
Posted on 8/1/09 at 5:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's mainly about being a "program stepfather"
miles is a better stepfather than coker b/c he recruits better and is a better CEO
So if Tubby is named coach after Miles, he's: Stepfather 2: "Make room for Daddy"? How long does the "Program Stepdad" thing last for you & Maxiphile? 10-15 more years of that nonsense?
Posted on 8/1/09 at 6:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
How can you ID a clueless LSU fan?
They only understand won/loss records. They don't understand championship seasons are built on non-championship seasons.
Clueless Rantards, don't you love'm.
They only understand won/loss records. They don't understand championship seasons are built on non-championship seasons.
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...our teams have gotten weaker the past 2 years (yes i know we won the title in 07, but that was with 2 losses.
Clueless Rantards, don't you love'm.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 6:35 pm to Sammich
I am still yet to hear a justifiable explanation as to why we're flirting with the possibility of the worst two-year record since the DiNardo era, in years 4 and 5 of our coach's tenure. Why we're looking at losing 4 games or more in each of two straight years is beyond me. How everyone is okay with this is even more of a mystery.
This post was edited on 8/1/09 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 8/1/09 at 6:39 pm to Carlos
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How everyone is okay with this is even more of a mystery.
What is a mystery is why you say that shite.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 6:48 pm to Carlos
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Why we're looking at losing 4 games or more in each of two straight years is beyond me. How everyone is okay with this is even more of a mystery.
Perfect example of a Clueless LSU fan. Trying to explain the realities of college football to this fan is a waist of time--not the brightest bulb in the pack.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 6:52 pm to Bad Cat
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Perfect example of a Clueless LSU fan. Trying to explain the realities of college football to this fan is a waist of time--not the brightest bulb in the pack.
I wish I could be as insightful as you, concerning why we're looking at the prospect of losing as many or more games than 2000 and 2001 when we were rebuilding the program. Please, do enlighten me if it's not too much of a "waist" of time for you.
This post was edited on 8/1/09 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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miles = conservative
Mostly true.
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i don't think anybody thought of miles as "half-crazed"
Where were you in 2007? People were going crazy over his 4th down gambles against Florida and last-second pass against Auburn. They said he was lucky and and a little crazy. This of course was false, but that is exactly my point. That was the image, regardless of the truth, so his image is not going to depend on what he does so much as what delusion the media disseminate about him.
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there is no way that they should have "surprise" seasons with their talent level
that "surprise" season would be based on coaching, not talent (we have more), and that would be a black mark on miles
Teams are often better than people think their talent should be before the season. Sometimes, that's caused by good coaching. Sometimes, it's caused by people not knowing shite about how good their players are. Auburn and Arkansas having good seasons would not be a black mark on Miles. Other than the one game he has against each, what can he do about that? If they are really good this year, and if UF, UGa, Bama and Pissy are as good as they are expected to be, that'll be six extremely good opponents we'll have to face. Losing four of those and being very competitive in all of them would not be a bad showing.
And is it impossible that our talent is overrated?
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this is the only excuse worth anything
So, then every team that does not suffer a terrible rash of injuries and does not go undefeated has a shitty coach? That's a pretty stupid way to look at it.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i think lee gets too much shite and was the right choice for sure. JJ was raw as frick
the DEFENSE is why we sucked last year
100% correct on all points.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:12 pm to Nuts4LSU
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If they are really good this year, and if UF, UGa, Bama and Pissy are as good as they are expected to be, that'll be six extremely good opponents we'll have to face. Losing four of those and being very competitive in all of them would not be a bad showing.
Rocket, your thoughts?
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:18 pm to Carlos
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Rocket, your thoughts?
What about it? That's his opinion and I don't know that I agree with it. But I do know that what Nuts says now doesn't mean a hill of beans because I've seen how he reacts right after losses. It's not pretty.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:19 pm to Rocket
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Rocket
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:20 pm to TigerOnTheProwl
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:22 pm to Carlos
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I am still yet to hear a justifiable explanation as to why we're flirting with the possibility of the worst two-year record since the DiNardo era, in years 4 and 5 of our coach's tenure. Why we're looking at losing 4 games or more in each of two straight years is beyond me. How everyone is okay with this is even more of a mystery.
If we were facing any schedule we have played in the 2000s, we would not be looking at 4 losses this year in our wildest nightmares. Even with this schedule, we are probably not going to lose 4 games. We should be much better than last year, but we could lose a few games because of how tough our schedule is. Outside of Vandy and Miss. St., there are no SEC games that we could say we will definitely win. The OOC is pure shite, of course, but six very difficult SEC games will make it very hard to win 10 or more games in the regular season.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:22 pm to Rocket
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What about it?
You got on my case for insinuating that our fans seem content with the prospect of four losses this year, and about five posts down someone says that he would be okay with four losses as long as they're moral victories.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:31 pm to Carlos
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You got on my case for insinuating that our fans seem content with the prospect of four losses this year, and about five posts down someone says that he would be okay with four losses as long as they're moral victories.
He was speaking for himself. I imagine you read this board more than you'd admit because you seem to pop up at anytime there is a controversial thread about Saban or a critical thread about Miles so if you would have been paying attention, you would know that there have been people who are not okay with a 4 or more loss season. Why aren't you paying attention? You even insiniuated the same thing in another thread a while back and I responded about the same way I did to you in this thread.
Not everyone thinks it is as probable that we lose that many games as you appear to. What's more, not everyone on here has the disdain for Miles that you have and wants it to happen, as I'm sure you do. If he had a 5 loss season, you'd enjoy looking forward to criticizing him.
Posted on 8/1/09 at 7:32 pm to Nuts4LSU
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We should be much better than last year, but we could lose a few games because of how tough our schedule is. Outside of Vandy and Miss. St., there are no SEC games that we could say we will definitely win.
Please. The SEC is tough every single year for every single team who plays in it. It has always been that way.
There are three games on our schedule that we should consider "acceptable" to lose: Georgia and Alabama (strictly because of the road venues), and Florida.
Ole Miss has not recruited as well as us the last few years, and as far as I am concerned, after that complete atrocity of a game last year where the players decided to hang their heads and quit on senior day, we are owed a victory. Same with Arkansas and the depleted state of their roster... with that game being in Tiger Stadium. Auburn is rebuilding with a 5-19 coach and should not have a chance of beating us in Tiger Stadium... if they do, it's on our coaching staff 100%.
So I apologize if I am not convinced by the "six really challenging games" argument.
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