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re: How can the same AD hire both Wade and Orgeron?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
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but the process by which O was hired was a disaster.
The other two choices were Tom "Just barely going bowling" Herman and Jimbo "Are the Aggies Hiring?" Fisher.
I'd say we made out okay.
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:19 am to slackster
How can you be such an azz hole?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:21 am to cra_cra
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Sir, I can assure you there isn't anything wrong with the post.
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screw ups happened in the way Miles was handled at the end of the season and ultimately not let go at that time. That mishandling created a cascade of additional problems.
first correct thing you've said
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that was exacerbated by ED O coming in and setting RECORDS with the offense and finishing very strong.
We went 4-2 in the SEC. And were shut out at home. He did a good job, but don't act like it was something it wasn't.
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And so when you look at look at that, look at recruiting, look at the finances, look at who you could truly get to come to LSU, look at what was actually needed, etc., LSU made the right choice.
When you compare resumes to the other coaches in "pot 2" as you called it, and it's pretty clear O did not stack up. You could have hired Justin Fuente or PJ Fleck and not completely broken the bank.
Also the "negotiations" if you want to call them that with Herman and Jimbo were, by all reports, poorly handled to say the least.
Again, you DO NOT fire Miles if you don't have the budget to get a top tier replacement. Things had not gotten that bad and recruiting was still strong. It happened anyway because Joe Alleva desperately needs to be listened to by his football coach. Ego over the best interests of the program.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:22 am to SaveFarris
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The other two choices were Tom "Just barely going bowling" Herman and Jimbo "Are the Aggies Hiring?" Fisher.
I'd say we made out okay.
the jury is out on Herman and Fisher has won an NC and 3 conference titles. One bad year doesn't change that.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
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When you compare resumes to the other coaches in "pot 2" as you called it, and it's pretty clear O did not stack up. You could have hired Justin Fuente or PJ Fleck and not completely broken the bank.
Come on man! Think before you post!
Both of those coaches were VERY young and VERY early in their careers. Neither one of them had ANY exposure to the SEC and neither had any real experience fighting SEC schools for recruits.
Though both of these names are young, promising coaches, the experience was just not there yet. They were HUGE risks, as was Herman. And there also was more of a financial risk to hiring someone that young and locking them in for a period of time.
I get it. We wanted more. But it just wasn't there.
And you look around the SEC over the last 5-8 years and see all of the coaching failures, handing over LSU to a 36 year old coach was just not going to happen.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:42 am to cra_cra
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Come on man! Think before you post!
I'm thinking at a far higher level than you are.
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Both of those coaches were VERY young and VERY early in their careers.
So what? Don Shula was 32 when he became a head coach.
Sean Mcvay is 32.
Lincoln Riley is 34.
Hell Will Wade is 34.
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Neither one of them had ANY exposure to the SEC and neither had any real experience fighting SEC schools for recruits.
Neither did Saban or Miles before they were hired here
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They were HUGE risks
And yet the guy we hired was an even bigger risk. Yes he had more experience, but like Trump said: "it's bad experience!"
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:58 am to Draconian Sanctions
And if for whatever reason you were just dead set against the young guys you know who you could have easily hired? Dan Mullen.
Mid 40's, over a decade experience in the SEC (since that seems to be a big thing for you), and maxed out a lesser program.
he fits the exact profile you seem to say wasn't out there, so spare me the "LSU did all they could an O was the best option" schtick because it's flat out not true.
Mid 40's, over a decade experience in the SEC (since that seems to be a big thing for you), and maxed out a lesser program.
he fits the exact profile you seem to say wasn't out there, so spare me the "LSU did all they could an O was the best option" schtick because it's flat out not true.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:19 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Me?
you are out of your depth and dead wrong on multiple levels
Dude, this site if full of terrible posters, but when it comes to sports only, you're easily one of the worst. You know people don't get French benefits, right? It's not the leaning tower of pizza. Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:47 am to AlxTgr
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but when it comes to sports only, you're easily one of the worst.
Prove it
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Will wade was a great hire. Got the best available candidate. Time will tell if it whether it’s truely a success.
Coach O was a horrific hire. I love and support LSU but this was a knee jerk hire of someone without a proven record. For a school who so greatly depends on revenue from the football program it is inexcusable to hire someone that isn’t a proven winner. Now with that said I think he has done a good job. i wish him nothing but success. It was just too big of a gamble even if it does pay off.
Hopefully allevas days are numbered.
Coach O was a horrific hire. I love and support LSU but this was a knee jerk hire of someone without a proven record. For a school who so greatly depends on revenue from the football program it is inexcusable to hire someone that isn’t a proven winner. Now with that said I think he has done a good job. i wish him nothing but success. It was just too big of a gamble even if it does pay off.
Hopefully allevas days are numbered.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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And if for whatever reason you were just dead set against the young guys you know who you could have easily hired? Dan Mullen.
Mid 40's, over a decade experience in the SEC (since that seems to be a big thing for you), and maxed out a lesser program.
he fits the exact profile you seem to say wasn't out there, so spare me the "LSU did all they could an O was the best option" schtick because it's flat out not true.
those conversations took place.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:49 pm to cra_cra
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those conversations took place.
Yet he's not the coach.
If you're in a position where, for whatever reason, you're not able or are not willing to go hire the Mississippi State coach, then you have no business firing a Les Miles.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 2:06 pm
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