re: Hey look, not a single LSu Freshman..

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If you NEED freshmen to come in and provide help you are not a top 5 talented team.

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Oh you mean like ALabama needed Richardson or Nico sometimes, or how FLoridas O line played Nixon. Your comment is the biggest bunch of crap Ive ever heard. If you are a top 5 program with top five talent your gonna get some big time freshman who deserve playing time. Im not saying I wanna be like SC who is like the whole list cause as you say that implies you suck, but the fact we have none is concering and is a big question mark in incoming recruits minds about how much they will get to play as freshman and be sucessfuil, especially when they see right next door at Bama freshman like Julio and Richardson..

So, you're all saying that if LSU had 1-2 freshmen on this meaningless post-season selection; THAT would be the deciding factor between a recruit spending the next 3-5 years of his life at LSU or not?

Who's the idiot, again?

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So, you're all saying that if LSU had 1-2 freshmen on this meaningless post-season selection; THAT would be the deciding factor between a recruit spending the next 3-5 years of his life at LSU or not?

Who's the idiot, again?

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What if another teams coach pointed out that no freshman at LSU garnered awards because they never get PT...and then subtely hinted that at their school, it doesn't matter what year you are. You couldn't see a situation like that?

Lets take this one step further. Exactly which freshmen do you think should have played more this year and would have possibly made all SEC? Lets take a look at it position by position and see where our poor coaching staff snubbed a potential freshman all star.

QB- Uhh..we had a freshman last year and a soph
this year, I don't think we want to get any
younger here.

RB- We began the year with Charles Scott, Keiland
Williams, Richard Murphy, Trindon Holiday
Stevan Ridley in front of any potential
freshman running backs. Not a lot of
opportunities there.

WR- Began the year with Brandon Lafell and TT
as the starters with a couple of senior
backups. RR did work his way into some
playing time as the season wore on, but
he didn't impress me as being light years
ahead of Jojo or TT. Not enough to
warrant him being the first option over
either of them.

TE/OL- No freshmen at these positions good
enough to unseat the incumbents.

DL- This was an area of need for the team
only Josh Downs was good enough to crack
the rotation at tackle. There was some
talk of Micheal Brockers getting some
playing time late but it is very rare for
a freshman to come in on the D-line in
the SEC and make an impact. Generally speaking if a freshman is a major contributor on the DL for your team you are in trouble in the SEC. If you are one of the top 3 teams in the SEC which we are, a freshman will be a major contributor maybe once every 10 years.


LB- No one here even close to good enough to
crack the top 5 LB's.

DB- Had he been healthy Loston may have been
able to log some time at safety and
Claiborn got a few mins at CB but really
with the talent at DB that we have, what
freshman has a chance to make an impact?
Even a freak like PP last year took awhile
adjust to the SEC speed. And a frosh this
now has to BEAT HIM OUT to get to play.

ST- What, you want some freshman to take touch-
es away from Trindon Holiday on kickoff returns?

So "Tiger stadium11, there you have it, what freshman should have started and made all SEC? Can't wait to find out.

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So "Tiger stadium11, there you have it, what freshman should have started

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Who said they had to start. Did Richardson start a game this year. No. Plus, Bama had two backs better than Keiland and Ridley in front of him. They didnt have to start, just play and make decent numbers. Randle was the 3rd receiver at the end of the year. We could all see by the 2nd game he was the 3rd best option. 7 games later, there he is. Shep had like 50 touches this year on a horrible offense that had the injury bug hit them as hard as anyone. Its not that they should have started but been in position to rack up more yards. This is not a reflection of the program, but of our coaching staff not using the talent available to them.

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A redshirt freshman lineman started every game for UA this season. He made the list. Trent Richardson did pretty well rotating in and out with Ingram. When our freshman all american from last year went down with a knee injury, a true freshman (Nico Johnson) took his place at LB.

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Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? You make my point. So let me get this straight, you had ONE freshman that started (OL) one that was a backup that came in to a position (LB) depleted by injury and one top flight RB that was able to beat out a weak back up crew? And remember Saban only has 3 years of top flight recruits in the fold, give his roster a couple more years and he will have the same problem every top school has. He will have to recruit against his own roster. Alabama has been down up until last year and its much easier to recruit when your talent level is low and there are more openings.

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Freshmen do not have to start to make the All-SEC Freshmen team, jackass. We're saying how under-utilized this top 3 recruiting class was, ie. Shep and RR. These 2 guys were the top 2 in the country at their position. How do you not get them the ball more often?

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Because princess, our weak defense left us only being able to avg. about 55 offensive plays a game. Lets see how that breaks down. Lets say 25 passes and 30 runs. 5 passes for Lafell, 5 for TT, 4 for Dickson 5 for the backs and at least 4 scrambles/sacks. That leaves about 2 to be spread out amongst RR and everyone else.

That leaves us our 30 running plays. 15 for Scott, 5 for Keiland, 5 of those stupid option plays Crowton loves so much...JJ only gets to pitch about half of em...and that leaves 5 more plays for Trindon's reverses and whomever else out of Ridley, RS et al gets a shot. Not many chances eh? I realize that this is a little technical for you rantards but its the nut and bolts of what it takes and not nearly as vague as "why can't they get the ball to them"? Grow up and learn some football!

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If you NEED freshmen to come in and provide help you are not a top 5 talented team. How many freshmen contributed to Fla, Bama, TX or Ohio St. this year? Rantards don't know the answer to this because they do not actually follow or understand football. They only pay attention to LSU and have no frame of reference. I hope we NEVER have a freshman of the year. I would much prefer a team full of All SEC Sr's and Jr's!!

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This.

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Freshmen do not have to start to make the All-SEC Freshmen team, jackass. We're saying how under-utilized this top 3 recruiting class was, ie. Shep and RR. These 2 guys were the top 2 in the country at their position. How do you not get them the ball more often?

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Rueban Randle - True Freshman - 10 catches, 146 yards, 2 TDs *Season still in progress

Dwayne Bowe - True Freshman - 9 catches, 106 yards, 0 TDs *1st Round NFL*

Craig Davis - True Freshman - 7 catches, 63 yards, 0 TDs *1st Round NFL*

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Rueban Randle - True Freshman - 10 catches, 146 yards, 2 TDs *Season still in progress Dwayne Bowe - True Freshman - 9 catches, 106 yards, 0 TDs *1st Round NFL* Craig Davis - True Freshman - 7 catches, 63 yards, 0 TDs *1st Round NFL*

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Come on Sammich, I've already flooded those rantards head with logic and reason. What makes you think they got room for any more?