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re: Here’s why giving up an out is stupid in front of Crews/White.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:41 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:41 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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There is no data at all that supports your position on bunting despite your irrelevant and nonsensical rambling, boomer.
Dugas grounded out to second against this same pitcher the game before where he was 0-4.
It’s called failing moron. LSU went 5 fricking innings without scoffing a run and y’all worried about one when they scored 13 against shitty pitching? The day before these same pitchers did the same thing to this “great line-up”. fricking dumb.you think .283 is a good thing when it means you fail 72% of the time. SEVENTY TWO AND YOURE RELYING ON ONE AB. THEN YOUR BEST HITTER HAS LOOKED LIKE shite FOR 2 weeks or so and was lucky to get a couple hits that HOPEFULLY gives him some confidence for this weekend.
I mean I’m not sure what so complex about it. Ask any manager professional or college what the stats says to do there.
If Dugas is not a good bunted, you pull him for one that is because you’re trying to win now and knowing the lead off runner gets on and score >50% of the time and you have Morgan, Crews and White coming up, you move him
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:42 pm to josh336
I would love to know the analytics for this.
How many times does a first batter walk score vs a 1 out double? Because that’s basically what you traded for.
How many times does a first batter walk score vs a 1 out double? Because that’s basically what you traded for.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:45 pm to Pintail
quote:and there ya go. Dugas grounded out to second and has grounded out a ton versus pitchers like him. He was 0-4 the game before with a ground out to second against that same pitcher.
If Dugas walks,
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:45 pm to Pintail
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Batting .500 on the weekend coming into Sunday with a HR and 2 hbp
And he just hit an opposite field double in the game.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:46 pm to Tiger1988
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I mean I’m not sure what so complex about it. Ask any manager professional or college what the stats says to do there.
They did and the consensus is bunting is dumb. Statistically you have a greater chance of scoring NOT BUNTING. This is an indisputable, mathematical, FACT.
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knowing the lead off runner gets on and score >50% of the time
You’re just making shite up now
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:47 pm to Pintail
quote:>55% is what I recall them saying ALL GAME BECAUSE THEY KEPT PUTTING THEM ON.
I would love to know the analytics for this. How many times does a first batter walk score vs a 1 out double? Because that’s basically what you traded for.
This was as of 2019 From the years 2013–2019, a lead off walk in a D1 Baseball game resulted in at least one run 51 percent of the time. Mean, that lead off runner’s team will score more often than not because the pitching staff allowed a lead off walk.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:48 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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You’re just making shite up now
They said it a ton if you watched the game about lead off walks
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:48 pm to Tiger1988
He was 4/4 the game before with a HR and HBP. He hit .380 on the weekend. What’s your point? You don’t take the bat out of these guys hands.
Like I said worst case scenario he grounds into a double play and Trey Morgan strikes out. You still have your two best hitters getting a chance to start the next inning.
He got out coached when it mattered. And this is coming from a big JJ homer.
Like I said worst case scenario he grounds into a double play and Trey Morgan strikes out. You still have your two best hitters getting a chance to start the next inning.
He got out coached when it mattered. And this is coming from a big JJ homer.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:49 pm to Tiger1988
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That was the right call 99/100 times. The question you need to ask is why your lead off hitter can’t bunt. Also why Nippolt attempted at a ball 4. If he takes that pitch there is not an out but nowhere to put white with just 1 out. This is a complex game so stop trying to second guess it. You’ve never managed for dame sure.
Bunting after a 4 pitch leadoff walk is an awful call. You never bunt after a 4 pitch leadoff walk.
Bunting after 7 straight balls is doubly awful call. The guy you asked to bunt chased ball 4 twice.
If you draw the walk there you have runners 1st and 2nd with no outs.
Tre moves them over and they walk Crews.
Tanks has the bases loaded with 1 out.
It's not a hard call to make. Jay blew the shite out of that. This isn't Monday morning quarterbacking. I said this right after the leadoff walk.
Jay fricked up.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:55 pm to Bring Da Wood
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The mistake was not letting Dugas be the guy to try and lay it down
THIS!!!
I promise you he knows how to bunt. And he also is much more experienced and patient and almost certainly draws a walk there. Not to mention being a human baseball magnet.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:56 pm to Pintail
quote:0-4 and grounded out against THIS SAME PITCHER. In fact in the 3 innings he had a 0.00 ERA which he ended with. It is called owning a team… he had up 3 walks over 3 innings and 2 were intentional…
He was 4/4 the game
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:57 pm to The Boat
quote:he didn’t. He showed bunt u til he threw a strike and Nippolt went for ball 4 instead he went for it. That’s on him. That ball wasn’t close. Now calling him off the bunt at that point, what did it matter? He still move the runner in scoring position which was his job. LSU is SHITTY at scoring runs with RiSP supposedly because they get so many on base but the reality is they are shitty because they can’t move them. It is a function of playing for the HR. White is really the only hitter on that team that has a decent 2 strike approach and wants to hit to all fields. That includes Crews.
Bunting after a 4 pitch leadoff walk is an awful call. You never bunt after a 4 pitch leadoff walk.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:58 pm to Pintail
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You don’t take the bat out of these guys hands. Like I said worst case scenario he grounds into a double play and Trey Morgan strikes out. You still have your two best hitters getting a chance to start the next inning. He got out coached when it mattered. And this is coming from a big JJ homer.
All of this.
Johnson shouldn’t have taken Dugas out for a guy that’s coming in the game cold and has a very low batting average. Nothing against Nippolt but Dugas is one of the best hitters on the team.
He shouldn’t have been taken out.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:59 pm to Tiger1988
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he didn’t. He showed bunt u til he threw a strike and Nippolt went for ball 4 instead of laying off. That’s on him. That ball wasn’t close.
Should have been swinging away with Dugas. No reason to make anyone attempt to bunt there.
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White is really the only hitter on that team that has a decent 2 strike approach and wants to hit to all fields. That includes Crews.
If Jay doesn't call a bunt after a 4 pitch leadoff walk LSU has the bases loaded for that guy White you mentioned with 1 out and a chance to walk off.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 10:04 pm to Tiger1988
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In fact in the 3 innings he had a 0.00 ERA which he ended with. It is called owning a team
So Milazzo is the guy you want to get the hit here? Got it. You are talking in circles.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 10:11 pm to Pintail
quote:crews is hitting nothing and those excuse me hits Sunday were what exactly? As far as I’m concerned (and as a matter of FACT), Milazzo hit better than Crews the last 2 weeks and was hitting over .350 in SEC play PLUS WHY WAS IT BAD AGAIN BECAUSE TAKING DUGAS OUT? That same Dugas hit a ground ball to second the day before against that same pitcher and that same pitcher pitched 3 innings and gave up 3 walks,2 intentional.
So Milazzo is the guy you want to get the hit here? Got it. You are talking in circles.
How about not giving up a fricking 9 run lead nor scoring after the 5th inning with CREWS, WHITE, AND EVERYONE ELSE.
Monday morning QBs are just fricking amazing
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 10:14 pm to Tiger1988
My lord I applaud your assertiveness.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 10:29 pm to Pintail
I like thompson in the 5 hole
Posted on 5/15/23 at 10:38 pm to Tiger1988
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crews is hitting nothing and those excuse me hits were what exactly. As far as I’m. Once red Milazzo hit better than Crews the last 2 weeks and was hitting over .;50 in SEC play PLUS WHY WAS IT BAD AGAIN BECAUSE TAKING DUGAS OUT? How about not giving up a fricking 9 run lead nor scoring after the 5th inning with CREWS WHITW AND EVERYONE ELSE. Monday morning QBs are just fricking amazing
You know even less about baseball than you do about track.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:36 am to Penrod
I’m surprised he didn’t say “we never should have been in this position”
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