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re: Help me understand the Burrow hype
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
Burrow also had to throw against these draft picks in practice and Spring Games:
2016
Rd 1 Pick 10 Eli Apple
Rd 2 Pick 61 Vonn Bell
2017
Rd 1 Pick 11 Marshon Lattimore
Rd 1 Pick 15 Malik Hooker
Rd 1 Pick 24 Gareon Conley
2018
Rd 1 Pick 4 Denzel Ward
That is an insane amount of talent
2016
Rd 1 Pick 10 Eli Apple
Rd 2 Pick 61 Vonn Bell
2017
Rd 1 Pick 11 Marshon Lattimore
Rd 1 Pick 15 Malik Hooker
Rd 1 Pick 24 Gareon Conley
2018
Rd 1 Pick 4 Denzel Ward
That is an insane amount of talent
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Wasn't maturity, it was nerves.
Guy panics under the lights
yep. He was too high/low emotionally and wanted so bad to be a good QB, but his nerves just werent right.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:03 pm to the_watcher
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Again you are comparing mop up duty up 50 to a full season SEC schedule. Context matters
Nope. You missed the point. I did not compare his numbers to a full SEC season. I compared the numbers to the greatest single games that Russell, Mett and Etling had in terms of completion percentage. Single games.
Russell and Mett were great. They were 62% passers. Etling was above average, he was a 60% guy. So what I did was go back and look at how often each topped Burrow's overall 78% in a single game.
Russell:
2004 season was 12/15 (80%) v. Iowa
2005 season was 21/24 v. Miss State (87.5%) and 17/21 (81%) v. North Texas
2006 season was 18/20 v. Miss State (90%) and 18/21 v. Bama (85.7%).
Mett:
2013 was 16/19 v. UAB (84%)
Etling
2017 was 14/17 v. BYU (82%)
Joe Burrow is 29 for 37 (78%). Yes it was in mop up duty but it is damn difficult to do that in any context, even when you are red hot as a passer.
It's not like he was 8 for 10. I'm also not expecting him to be 78%.
Rather, I'm saying that a guy who has gone out and completed 78% over 37 passes in live game action is very good evidence that he is an accurate passer.
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You can choose to be optimistic.
It's good for the soul.
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I can choose to be realistic.
Again, the point of the thread was not about what are the realistic expectations. I am expecting 60-63%, 23 TDs, 2,500-2,800 yards and 10 or less INTs. Those are very good numbers. That's what I am expecting. You may be more bearish which is fair.
But again, the thread topic is "Why are Fans Hyped About Burrow" and failing to see that his past performance is not a reason for optimism makes no sense.
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It seems you’re upset not everyone sees things the way you do.
No. I'm simply amazed that we have so many dumbasses in the fanbase that can't understand why everybody is super excited about the new QB.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:26 pm to ROPO
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Nope. You missed the point. I did not compare his numbers to a full SEC season. I compared the numbers to the greatest single games that Russell, Mett and Etling had in terms of completion percentage. Single games.
Dude, Burrow’s 37 attempts came over the span of 8 different games over the course of two seasons. You’re comparing 4-5 passes a game late in the 4th quarter vs back ups to a single game of multiple qb’s
Ohio St 77 Bowling Green 10
Rutgers 58-0
Nebraska 62-3
Maryland 62-3
UNLV 54-21
Rutgers 56-0
Nebraska 56-14
Illinois 52-14
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No. I'm simply amazed that we have so many dumbasses in the fanbase that can't understand why everybody is super excited about the new QB.
I literally said in this thread “I understand the hype” you’re just upset I don’t agree with some of the reasons why
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:35 pm to Goldrush25
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What the frick was Mettenberger?
Three INT agin' Ole Piss.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:54 pm to BlindTiger7
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Help me understand the Burrow hype
It's the unknown. It's the possibility that he could be really good. LSU has not had that in a while.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:36 pm to the_watcher
What have you seen from the other 3 that would generate any hype? I’ve seen plenty from the other three that is cause for concern.
What have you seen from Burrow that would cause concern?
What have you seen from Burrow that would cause concern?
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:38 pm to BlindTiger7
Why worry about it?
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:40 pm to BlindTiger7
I see where you're coming from, But as many people who have been asked about him in interviews and press conferences, not one person has said anything bad about Burrow. Whether it be a former coach, Teammate, or friend. The hype is everyone ready to see what the man is about. They're optimistic that everything they hear about Burrow is true and that he's the QB that'll take LSU to where the Tigers need to be. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:42 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Anyone who has paid attention post Matt Flynn understands this. It is inexplicable and inexcusable. I still resent the fact that Miles TOTATLLY cocked up the QB situation which led to a chronically crippled offense.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:48 pm to MRGeaux
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QUOTE: “Well, our QBs looked bad in the Spring Game for one. “
Well our brilliant head coach admitted in his Moscona interview that he intentionally sent blitzes and constant pressure through a patch work OL to put excessive pressure on the QBs to see how they handled it. we got what we got. None of them stood out. No other coach in the country would do that in a spring game. What expect from a shrimp boat captain
That’s actually something I’m glad O did and sounds more like a good thing than a bad thing. Our spring QBs had very little to no experience. We don’t know what we had at the QB spot. Only way to find out was by putting them in a game / pressure scenario and see how they handled it.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:24 pm to BlindTiger7
could it possibly be that he is better than the other 3?
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:29 pm to DCtiger1
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What have you seen from the other 3 that would generate any hype? I’ve seen plenty from the other three that is cause for concern.
Narcisse and McMillan have never played. Brennan looked like a true freshman. Not much of anything
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What have you seen from Burrow that would cause concern?
I haven’t seen anything aside from highlights of mop up duty over the past 2 years and some spring game throws. But again I’ve never seen Narcisse play in college either. I’m also not naive enough to state definitively based on evidence that he will walk in and torch the SEC
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:39 pm to the_watcher
You have a sample size, however you try to minimize it, with Burrow that shows no negative habits and lots of potential. What we’ve seen with the others is that they couldn’t beat out Etling and did poorly in our spring game.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:54 pm to BlindTiger7
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I'm not saying its not ok. Just help me understand where you see the excitement opposed to Narcisse/McMillan/Brenna
Seriously?
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:55 pm to BlindTiger7
Couldn’t agree with your question more. I had the same question last year when cAnAdA was the new savior. Got the same responses. All emotional no factual. And look where he is now...
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:58 pm to uppereast
Its been answered 15+ times in this very thread...logically.
No one actually KNOWS how he'll do, but when you compare him to our other QBs, he should be better, based on known info.
No one actually KNOWS how he'll do, but when you compare him to our other QBs, he should be better, based on known info.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 5:05 pm to BlindTiger7
I just called the Sean Salisbury show and asked if he had any insight on our QB situation.
His reply was that they weren’t comfortable with the way the three on the roster were handling the routine throws. They all had talent but didn’t seem ready. Brought Burtow in because he was a little more seasoned.
He thinks Narcisse and Brennan will be really good in time.
His reply was that they weren’t comfortable with the way the three on the roster were handling the routine throws. They all had talent but didn’t seem ready. Brought Burtow in because he was a little more seasoned.
He thinks Narcisse and Brennan will be really good in time.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:11 am to BlindTiger7
Those videos you see, Burrow is just taking warm up throws like baseball players do before a game. You can tell his simply warming up.
After those videos, is when he really starts to turn up the juice, so we don't even see his best. I think after next week it will be so obvious that the coaches and players will have to name him the starter, at least privately. It'll be obvious bc he'll be getting most of the reps at that point.
I think where he'll really shine is in the scrimmage, when the competition is turned up.
After those videos, is when he really starts to turn up the juice, so we don't even see his best. I think after next week it will be so obvious that the coaches and players will have to name him the starter, at least privately. It'll be obvious bc he'll be getting most of the reps at that point.
I think where he'll really shine is in the scrimmage, when the competition is turned up.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:22 am to BlindTiger7
Delusional and desperate for a qb
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