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re: "He can recruit, but he can't coach." ---Dan Patrick

Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:52 am to
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Miles had a three year head start on Saban lsu was in way better shape than bama. Not only did he catch miles by year 3 but he had passed him up by then


exactly!
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:57 am to
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So our program has fallen to the level where you expect us to get blown out at home against bama?



I don't expect it, no

but it is the reality of the situation
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:58 am to
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I didnt say losing to anybody specifically each year...thanks for putting words in my mouth.....I said as along as one of the losses WAS NOT to Bama each year.



right...

so you would have to replace that loss with someone else...and that someone would be a lesser team

and you think people would be ok with that?

Posted by PR FIRM
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:00 am to
I'm scared to respond admins might hack me seem like you have to be positive about LSU
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:09 am to
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and you think people would be ok with that?



not every but occasionally....yes. I for one, would be thrilled to beat Bama occasionally and finish 10-2. 10 wins is the threshold for most pumpers anyway right?

You know as well as I, many people gauge the success of the season, among other factors, with beating Bama. Where we end up at the end of the season is usually a result of how we fare against Bama. We need to stop the bleeding now. We've had the talent in the past and schit the bed....that falls solely on coaching.
Posted by lsugrad35
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:15 am to
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we have played Bama tight several times when we probably should have been blown out


When has LSU had so little talent that they should have been blown out?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:18 am to
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When has LSU had so little talent that they should have been blown out?


2008 immediately comes to mind

2014 with AJ

and its not the talent discrepancy, its the coaching discrepancy
Posted by lsugrad35
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:22 am to
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and its not the talent discrepancy, its the coaching discrepancy


Now I'm confused on which side you're on

Are you for or against Miles?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:25 am to
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Are you for or against Miles?


I honestly don't know what this means. I'm for Miles and LSU winning.

I defend Miles against unwarranted criticism.

He has plenty of legit criticisms, so I never understand why people choose to discredit his legit accomplishments.



Posted by OldSarge38
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:31 am to
He can recruit, but he can't coach.

Dan Patrick can't do either but Miles could be an analyst.

Posted by lsugrad35
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:33 am to
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Miles could be an analyst.


you would watch that? Nobody can even understand what he means in an interview or press conference right now and you think he could be an analyst?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:35 am to
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people choose to discredit his legit accomplishments.



Where? When? How? Link?

Rick parades out his accomplishments 3/4 times a week and virtually no one disputes what hes done (bottom feeders excluded). But he's using those accomplishments as a crutch to defend the last few years which have been underwhelming to say the least.

My point, most criticism is valid....albeit, its repeated ad nauseum.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:35 am to
Lou Holtz was a analyst.

It doesn't require much to be one.

Posted by lsugrad35
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:36 am to
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I honestly don't know what this means. I'm for Miles and LSU winning.


I was legitimately asking. I just couldn't remember your stance. I thought you were a supporter, but then you acknowledged a coaching discrepancy and not a talent discrepancy. I see your point and I respect your opinions. For the record I generally agree with your posts non Miles related. You're a quality poster. We just differ on this point.
Posted by lsugrad35
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:37 am to
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Lou Holtz was a analyst.


Solid point. But that doesn't make it right
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:38 am to
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Where? When? How? Link?


This very thread?

I'm not linking the plethora of threads that have claimed Miles did nothing for OK St, he only won early because of Saban recruits, he got lucky in 2011, he got lucky in 2007, he isn't a good recruiter, just in a lucky situation, and so on and so on

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Rick parades out his accomplishments 3/4 times a week and virtually no one disputes what hes done


the hell? you're blind

Posted by LSUTiggahs
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:50 am to
What has Harbaugh won in college?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:04 am to
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the hell? you're blind


You see ONLY what you want to see. Many people acknowledge what the man has done. You guys are like vultures sweeping down on any negative post and focusing solely on that....taking every word personally. Ridiculous!
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:08 am to
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You see ONLY what you want to see


I see Rick getting in long debates daily with half this board. So you saying that nobody disagrees with him is just factually incorrect.

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You guys are like vultures sweeping down on any negative post and focusing solely on that


and the same could be said for the nega swooping down upon positive post

just there are a lot more negative posts these days

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taking every word personally.


I don't take anything personally on this site.

But your unwillingness to accept that a large faction of posters on here have taken it upon themselves to discredit Miles entire career is quite ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 11:08 am
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:28 am to
Your claim is wholly untrue. I know there are people who wont credit Miles for anything. Im not one of them. He was a great coach....at one point......now he's not. Its that simple. I acknowledge his accomplishments but want him gone because I believe its in the best interest of the program.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 11:55 am
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