re: Has LSU ever had this much top-line talent in the NFL?

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Don't forget Trai Turner being one of the top young guards.

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I don't know how I forgot about him. Good call out.

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Hilliard was a pro bowler led the NFL in Tds (no current player has)

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Doesn't Jeremy Hill have the most rushing TDs the last 3 years or something?

Pretty stout.

Hill has done well but I was talking single season. Hilliard had 18 in a year something no other tiger has done since.

Wish they'd trade him to someone decent so he could shine. A big back like Hill needs the majority of the carries.

It's not a coincidence LSU just had it's best decade ever in the history of the program. Not a coincidence that LSU had the most wins of any program over about a 15 year period.

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I know being a prisoner of the moment is hard to avoid but arnspargers group accomplished more than the group we have right now.

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OK, maybe counting Pro Bowl's isn't an accurate measure, but the current group has more than three times as many PB's. That is more than enough to account for the difference between eras.

Let's measure another way. How many Hall of Famers did we have in the group from the Arnsbarger era? Obviously, we don't have any in the current group because they are all current, but Odell Beckham Jr and Patrick Peterson are obviously headed that way. Trai Turner and Tyrann Mathieu (if he can stay healthy for a stretch of 5 years, or so) have HoF potential.

Before you tell me that the current crew hasn't actually done it, yet, I want to point out that none of the 80's crew even remotely were mentioned as potential HoFers at any time in their careers. They just weren't that caliber.

13.75 carries per game is plenty? Ok

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On pace but not there yet.

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There and then some. I said "top-line", meaning, top-tier NFL talent. Sorry, the 80's crowd was a group of solid players that had some good seasons and decent careers. Ring of Honor? Who? I don't think any of those guys are even Ring of Honor material, too be honest. Maybe Marshall, but I dunno...

You can make a case that Patrick Peterson is the best corner in the game over the last 5 years. You can make a case that Odell Beckham is the best receiver in the game the last three years - certainly in the conversation. Mathieu at his best was the best safety in the game. Other than Marshall for a two year stretch, none of the 80's guys were ever even close to top tier guys at their position.

" none of those guys are ring of honor material'". Except Eric Martin and Dalton Hilliard are in the saints hall of fame I dunno about any of the other guys I don't follow their franchises that closely. Martin retired as the teams alltime leading receiver in every category. Hilliard, Marshall, Thomas and Brooks were all ALL PRO just off the top of my head, not pro bowl, all pro huge difference. Marshall and Thomas have more sacks each than all of our current players combined. Eric Hill was the 10th overall pick, how many Tiger lbs have been taken that high since? I don't know if you've ever seen any of these guys play but you def don't know a lot about them which kinda deflates your argument.

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Except Eric Martin and Dalton Hilliard are in the saints hall of fame

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But not the Saints Ring of Honor. Big difference.

OK. I've got it. How many times did any of those guys make 1st team all pro? None of them ever have. I was surprised. Not a one of them. I thought for sure Leonard Marshall made 1st team at least once. Nope. Never. Even though he was NFC defensive lineman of the year, there were better guys in the AFC and he got bumped to 2nd team.

The current group had 3 guys on the same squad in 2015. I'm not going to count all of the 1st team All Pros the current team has total, but it's more a lot more than zero. The current squad also has a lot more 2nd team all pros, too. The 80's team had a few: Thomas (2), Marshall (2), and Hilliard (1), but the current squad has more. Eric Martin never made 1st or 2nd team All Pro, that I'm aware of. The thing is, even though the current squad has more All Pro honors already, I have a feeling they have a few more in them.

I went to LSU during the 80's. I would follow them. It remember how LSU had a few players that were starters a few that were solid, but they never seemed to have any dominant players.

I think # of All Pro squads is a fair way to compare separate generations, because I agree with you that a couple of the current guys got on the squad as alternates, and it's not fair to compare using that measure. All Pro is fair, though.