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re: Has J. Lee gotten a fair opportunity to become the Starting QB ...
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:02 am to TigerFan55555
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:02 am to TigerFan55555
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who was in the game when LSU took the lead in the 4th?.
Jefferson....
3rd and Goal at ALA 1 Stevan Ridley rush for 1 yard for a TOUCHDOWN. 14 19
Two-point conversion attempt, Jordan Jefferson pass to Rueben Randle GOOD. 14 21
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Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:03 am to TigerFan55555
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JJ still gets sacked way to many times....(although they have gone down) I still dont believe he will ever change....I still think Jlee will get better with reps and has waaaaay more upside
LSU has allowed 17 sacks all year (#44 in the country). Jefferson has been sacked nine times; Lee has been sacked eight times.
Jefferson has attempted 155 passes when you include sacks, meaning he has been sacked once per 17.2 attempts.
Lee has attempted 91 passes when you include sacks, meaning he has been sacked once per 11.3 attempts.
Neither guy really has been bad in the sack department this year, but your "perception" is way off.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:06 am to tduecen
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Not exactly since LSU was winning and that drive led to a punt and not a touchdown....
I'm talking about the drive at the beginning of the fourth quarter when we went up 21-14. That was the defining drive of the season.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:08 am to Antonio Moss
quote:That was a Jefferson led drive
I'm talking about the drive at the beginning of the fourth quarter when we went up 21-14. That was the defining drive of the season.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:08 am to kevg33
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If Lee was better, he would be playing more but he is not.
I don't know if I buy this.
Again, our biggest problem is scheme and that lies on Crowton's shoulders. I don't trust him to do anything correctly.
I don't think its fair to judge either of these guys so long as Crowton is here. Neither has been put in a position to succeed.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:09 am to tduecen
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That was a Jefferson led drive
Right. And it was certainly more important than the drive at the end of the Tennessee and Florida games.
I was just objecting to your statement that these were the two most important drives of the season.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:11 am to Antonio Moss
Considering we were talking about drives by Lee... not sure exactly where you are going with that one. I still would not rank that as one of more important because LSU was tied at the time and there was still 8 minutes left on the clock.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:12 am to tduecen
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That was a Jefferson led drive
actually that was a Ridley-led drive. JJ was 0 for 1 in passing on that drive...although the 2 pointer was a great play
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:16 am to ForeLSU
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actually that was a Ridley-led drive.
Well, Lee tends to get an awful lot of credit for just being in the game on rushing led drives so I'm not sure why the same doesn't apply to Jefferson.
Jefferson had to huge plays on that drive - the two point conversation and the block on the reverse.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:17 am to Antonio Moss
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And it was certainly more important than the drive at the end of the Tennessee and Florida games.
hard to compare...without the drives vs. TN and FL the Bama drive wouldn't have meant near as much. The FL drive certainly had much more pressure given the time and the fact that it was at Florida vs. home. The Bama drive, we just pounded Ridley down the field to take the lead.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:18 am to tduecen
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Considering we were talking about drives by Lee
This was your statement:
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Lee has been on the field during 2 of most important drives this season (end of Tennessee/Florida)
Now, if you meant to say "two of the most" and not "two most," then I apologize.
I was just pointing out that Jefferson was in on "the" most important drive of the season.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:27 am to Antonio Moss
We are just going to have to agree to disagree because to me that still was not the most important drive of season. Considering it was a tie, there was time left on the clock, etc.
Does Alabama win look better? Sure but without the other two then the Alabama win wouldn't matter.
Does Alabama win look better? Sure but without the other two then the Alabama win wouldn't matter.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:37 am to Antonio Moss
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Right. And it was certainly more important than the drive at the end of the Tennessee and Florida games.
dont know about that...timing has a lot to do with that...and its still 2-1....plus Ridley led that drive...the other two were because of lee throwing...so...oh well..
didnt really want to get into all this stuff, I really wanted to just ask if he has gotten a fair shake...i still believe he hasnt...
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:38 am to tduecen
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We are just going to have to agree to disagree because to me that still was not the most important drive of season. Considering it was a tie, there was time left on the clock, etc.
Does Alabama win look better? Sure but without the other two then the Alabama win wouldn't matter.
true...
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:40 am to TigerFan55555
as soon as Lee stops throwing off of his back foot, he'll become the starter. I counted a couple passes, one a long TD pass, that would have been caught had he not underthrown the receiver.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:48 am to TigerFan55555
No, he has not.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:49 am to Tiger HouTX
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as soon as Lee stops throwing off of his back foot, he'll become the starter.
wish it were that simple, but i dont think thats the problem...
dont get me wrong, throwing off your back foot is not what your suppose to do, but qb's do it all the time to save time, rather then step into their throws....
granted a slant over the middle or a deep ball needs to be stepped into to put zip on it...but qb's throw off their back foot all the time successfully if they have the arm...not saying Lee is favre, but he does have the better arm of the two...
example, if Im throwing a hot route to the TE, I can throw that ball quickly and accurately moving backwards, its called being athletic...I dont see lee throwing that way all the time...but I would agree that he does it too much...
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:52 am to Tiger HouTX
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as soon as Lee stops throwing off of his back foot, he'll become the starter.
that's an issue, but it isn't his sole issue.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 11:55 am to TigerFan55555
as soon as Lee stops throwing off of his back foot, he'll become the starter. I counted a couple passes, one a long TD pass, that would have been caught had he not underthrown the receiver.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:18 pm to Antonio Moss
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that's an issue, but it isn't his sole issue.
whats his sole issue?
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