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re: Hannigriff and Ott making excuses why we shouldn't expect to beat Bama

Posted on 2/6/19 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 2:51 pm to
Trev is eàten up with the anti Orgeron hate
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:03 pm to
I agree

And I even Made a thread saying: don’t forget this is an amazing class.

I think Sopsher is just a perfect storm of factors that would put people in a bad mood
-Committed to Bama
-O was a DL coach
-from Amite
- last name on the board
-position of need (although I think He’s a NT and not a DE and I like Ika)
-high profile because of how high he was initially rated
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:14 pm to
It absolutely sucks not getting him. But for people to be melting over this is ridiculous.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75739 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:17 pm to
I actually Agree

It’s all recency bias

If he commits to Bama in December feel like we’re happy today.

Idk we needed DEs. I an Legitimacy concerned about that position in 2020, but luckily Lawrence and Fehoko came back. We could have beeen fricked thisnuear
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:31 pm to
He’s right. It’s not Eauxs fault he got beat on the trail again. Why would that be the head coach’s fault? Bunch of negas up in here
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:36 pm to
I would be more upset if I thought we had him. I pretty much wrote him off as a bama kid. We definitely need some dl in next classes or transfers
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:38 pm to
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absolutely sucks not getting him. But for people to be melting over this is ridiculous.



Him?

What about the other 3 his whiffed on??

This was an absolute disaster in our “trench warfare” for a supppsed DL guru and makes 2019 even more urgent to win big now because 2020 is going to be ugly.


Honestly if it wasn’t for Emory this class would have been very troubling.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:42 pm to
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for a supppsed DL guru


please tell me how recruiting works. Do the position coaches recruit an area or positions? What is the most important in recruiting...the HC, the DC or OC, or the position coaches?

Is Dave Aranda only responsible for LB's?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26970 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:44 pm to
One would have to be living under a rock to not get frustrated by some of the things that have been said and happenned under O...


"I've learned my lesson. i'm going to let the coaches do their job and coach their unit"
... O-Canada feud about control of offense

"I'm going to hire the best offensive coordinator in the country"
... we hire Ensminger, Miles' TE coach

"We've got to get better on the defensive line. I've got to recruit better on the defensive line."
... current DL recruiting class is shaky at best

It's not like O has been here a decade where it would be expected that at least a few things didn't go to plan... These things are piling up in merely a handful of years with him at the helm.


I do think overall the program is stable under O and any "decline" that seemed to be happening under Miles has been stopped for the time being, but nonetheless it does get very frustrating to hear declaratory statements from O and see the exact opposite play out. Best case scenario, he has great intentions and simply says what the fans want to hear. Worst case scenario, he straight up lies to the fans and/or can't finish the job.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:53 pm to
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What is the most important in recruiting...the HC, the DC or OC, or the position coaches?



The head coach is *the* most important of course.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68724 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:57 pm to
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The head coach is *the* most important of course.



Well yeh but many recruits fall in love with the coach recruiting them right? Who was recruiting the guys we lost?
Posted by LSUFANDAY1
Member since Jan 2005
2503 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:58 pm to
It is the truth it hurts
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75739 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:59 pm to
I would Probably put
HC and position coach over DC
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282364 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:59 pm to
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This was an absolute disaster in our “trench warfare”


Here come the drama queens...

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75739 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:00 pm to
Dennis Johnson was primary
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Just so tired of hearing it.


Who gives a damn?

Man up dude




The dramaqueens here are hilarious.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282364 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:03 pm to
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I would be more upset if I thought we had him.


I wrote him off months ago, no chance for him.

We hit on Ika, lost Sophster. I'm not unhappy at all with the outcome.

Our D line haul next year looks to be very good.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:03 pm to
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Is Dave Aranda only responsible for LB's



WTF? Dave Aranda is in no way shape or form responsible for any of these recruiting failures. it's all on O and everyone else.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
41642 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:08 pm to
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Sick of hearing excuses. You must be.


The excuses are legitimate. The talent gap is a legitimate reason, coaching ability and preparedness is an even bigger liability. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68724 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Dave Aranda is in no way shape or form responsible for any of these recruiting failures. it's all on O and everyone else.


So every recruit we get and lose is all on the HC & "everyone else" is your answer?
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 4:10 pm
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