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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.

Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:39 pm to
It sounds crazy to say but I actually think we do need some under center and heavy sets for that exact reason. I don’t mean do what Miles did and try to sit on the ball for an entire half but if we’re up on an SEC opponent by 3 scorers or more with under 10 minutes we need to be able to grind out the clock.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:40 pm to
Ah.

Well Mark Emmert hired him at UW. That's high praise right there. Emmert knows talent when he sees it.

He lands very good coaches, Chris Petersen at UW, Jimbo at A&M. That is impressive. Actually getting a NC winning coach to come to your school is a big deal and speaks to his excellence at his job.

I'm sure he's expecting the HC here to eventually reach the accolades that those two coaches have achieved.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

It sounds crazy to say but I actually think we do need some under center and heavy sets for that exact reason


I think we will

I just don't want to see us get conservative and let people back in the game

The offense last year had some second half lapses
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:48 pm to
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He lands very good coaches,


I agree he does.

But the "he doesn't stand for underachieving" seems a bit premature as none of him primary hires have won a NC. I'm saying people see him as one thing, but his strength is actually fundraising.

Peterson won a PAC 12 title though, for what it's worth.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:56 pm to
“not a lot of hardware”

It’s amusing the way some want to piss on a guy with a NC, 3 conference titles , and like 4
Divisional titles, but champion a guy with no hardware.

Maybe this year.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:56 pm to
I mean if somehow we got Urban Meyer here at LSU, would we slam the hire or say it's not impressive if he didn't win a NC in his first year?

Getting a guy that's put together the right recipe before is a big deal.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:59 pm to
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Damn near as funny as someone claiming that Joe Burrow was a top 5 college quarterback last season.

IMO, He was at the very least, a top 6 QB in 2018. And he did it stone cold as to practices - bumps him up a notch or 2 in my book.

Top 5 or 6, if you believe a QB's job is to lead his offense to compete against the best programs in the country. Joe's team finished #6 in the nation. And Joe did this with 3 1/2 weeks of Fall practice. That is off-the-charts impressive.

Now if to believe a QB's job is to stockpile personal stats, then no. But that said, Joe's stats will take a huge jump in '19. He'll be the same QB pretty much, but the scheme and experience at OL & receivers will improve.

And, in the Spread/RPO, the focus will be on short and mid range high-percentage passes. Joe will be in the 68% to 72% completion rate. 3600 yards is the bed-rock basement. 4000+ will not surprise me in the least. An good RBs help the passing game & vice-versa.

Bookmarked

This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 7:03 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:59 pm to
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It’s amusing the way some want to piss on a guy with a NC


Woodward did that? Wow! Because that's exactly who I was talking about
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:01 pm to
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IMO, He was at the very least, a top 6 QB in 2018.


Christ...

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That is, if you believe a QB's job is to lead his offense to compete against the best programs in the country. Joe's team finished #6 in the nation. And Joe did this with 3 1/2 weeks of Fall practice. That is off-the-charts impressive.


That doesn't make you one of the best QBs in the country. He didn't do that by himself.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59899 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:02 pm to
Agree 100%
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:04 pm to
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That is, if you believe a QB's job is to lead his offense to compete against the best programs in the country


LSU has consistently had poor offensive performance and achieved 9 win or better regular seasons when no games were cancelled.

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He'll be the same QB pretty much


No he won't. He will be running the ball more which is why he is bulking up.

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3600 yards is the bed-rock basement. 4000+ will not surprise me in the least.


Him, or him and Brennan combined?
They will both get some major playing time next year.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:06 pm to
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That doesn't make you one of the best QBs in the country. He didn't do that by himself.
LOL, do you think Haskins put up huge numbers by himself? He had the most experienced WR room in the nation. And one of the best OLs - And an OC who called pass plays all game long. C'mon man!

And LSU wasn't even ranked preseason. Joe did his job to help his team finish #6.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 7:08 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:10 pm to
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if you believe a QB's job is to lead his offense to compete against the best programs in the country. Joe's team finished #6 in the nation.

Jordan Jefferson was a top 5 QB in the country. Who knew?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:11 pm to
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Him, or him and Brennan combined?
They will both get some major playing time next year.
If Brennan gets significant PT, then combined. If not, then by himself.

And Joe will run it, but not like the end of last season. 6-10 runs per game would be my guess
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:11 pm to
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I mean if somehow we got Urban Meyer here at LSU, would we slam the hire or say it's not impressive if he didn't win a NC in his first year?


Who said the Jimbo hire wasn't impressive? It's the deal he made that puts ungodly pressure on the program to perform and do it quickly

And interestingly Woodward isn't there to take the heat if it goes bad.

As all hires, it will take 3-4 years to tell
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:13 pm to
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LOL, do you think Haskins put up huge numbers by himself? He had the most experienced WR room in the nation. And one of the best OLs - And an OC who called pass plays all game long. C'mon man!


So first you say that Burrow's a top 6 QB because of what he did in leading LSU to the #6 ranking.

But Haskins lead Ohio st to the #5 ranking and did it putting up way better stats.

That says to me that Haskins is the better QB, bar none.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:15 pm to
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So first you say that Burrow's a top 6 QB because of what he did in leading LSU to the #6 ranking.

But Haskins lead Ohio st to the #5 ranking and did it putting up way better stats.

That says to me that Haskins is the better QB, bar none.
I've always said Haskins was a top-5 QB - he was.

And Burrow's stats would have been very similar to Haskins' - more rushing yards - a few hundred less passing yards.

But no way in hell would Joe have allowed that team to lose to fricking Purdue. No way. And Ohio State would have made the playoffs with Joe at QB.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:17 pm to
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It's the deal he made that puts ungodly pressure on the program to perform and do it quickly



I still don't know why this deal is such a big deal. They could afford to pay him twice what they did pay him. and they'd still turn a higher profit per year (by far) than we do.

I think everyone involved knows that these things aren't guarantees. But they went out and got a guy that's proven he knows how to win at the highest level. You really can't ask for more than that.

It'll either work or it won't but at least the program can say they put their best foot forward. Who could blame them for that?
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:21 pm to
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I've always said Haskins was a top-5 QB - he was.



And Ian Book? I'm guessing he's one of the top 5 QBs in the country since he led ND to the #5 ranking (I was wrong about Ohio st, they actually finished #3).

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And Burrow's stats would have been very similar to Haskins' - more rushing yards - a few hundred less passing yards.

But no way in hell would joe have allowed his team to lose to fricking Purdue. No way. And Ohio State would have made the layoffs with Joe at QB.



None of this means anything. It's just a bunch of unprovable crap.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:23 pm to
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went out and got a guy that's proven he knows how to win at the highest level.
Right. Find a Jameis Winston and try to keep him out of prison!

Just like Gus and Chizik at Auburn. Chizik at least admits the coaches just gave the offense over to Cam and let him run Meyer's Read/Option (though Gus had banked 10's of millions pretending it was his offense)

You can put Herman in the same boat. Cardale ran his shite, not Herman's. Aranda would have destroyed the Herman/Beck/Barrett offense like Va Tech and Clemson did.

This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 7:34 pm
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