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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.

Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:09 pm to
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was arguing against the "scheme is the most important thing"


I don’t know why they don’t get this simple concept. When your entire OL has 7 career starts, your QB transferred in June, your RB is a senior with 300 career yards, and your top 2 WRs have all of zero career receptions prior to the season, THAT is your biggest problem.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:10 pm to
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No that’s not at all what you said. I’m gonna have to repost your original incorrect statement for the 4th fricking time because everytime it’s proven wrong you lie about what you said. You’re pathetic dude


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Lol who do you think instructed him to run the ball so much? Lol he loves to say Canada was insubordinate then he just dies a 180 on that take when he wants to make another accusation.

I’m not sure how anyone comes to the conclusion that Orgeron wanted to run the ball so frequently in 2017. It’s well documented that Orgeron prefers the USC offense that won two NCs while he was assistant HC. After he was hired in November of 2016, he waited for Kiffin (certainly not a run-first OC) to complete his HC interviews. Then this year he hires Ensminger and LSU throws the ball more than it has in many years. To bolster the passing game he hires a Saints assistant for 2919.


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This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:12 pm to
“I’m not sure how anyone comes to the conclusion that Orgeron wanted to run the ball so frequently in 2017. It’s well documented that Orgeron prefers the USC offense that won two NCs while he was assistant HC. After he was hired in November of 2016, he waited for Kiffin (certainly not a run-first OC) to complete his HC interviews. Then this year he hires Ensminger and LSU throws the ball more than it has in many years. To bolster the passing game he hires a Saints assistant for 2919.”

And I posted the stats that proved he’s always run the ball more than he’s thrown it by a lot and that 2017 wasn’t an outliar. To which you replied with stats that have zero to do with run pass ratio. You’re a joke
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 5:13 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:14 pm to
That excuse wears thin when you’re playing a 2-10 Arkansas team in week 10

It’s college football.

If you can’t get players in your scheme quickly you’re always going to have problems.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:14 pm to
Orgerons CAREER run pass ratio : 42.9% pass 57.1% run. That’s not a passing offense you moron Les Miles run pass ratio is 39.1% to 60.9% that’s a 3% difference not 26% you idiot. Take your L and start lying about something else.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:16 pm to
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And I posted the stats that proved he’s always run the ball more than he’s thrown it by a lot and that 2017 wasn’t an outliar. To which you replied with stats that have zero to do with run pass ratio. You’re a joke


I’ve posted all of the Ole Miss stats as well as Maryland’s 2018 stats.

Here’s the last nail in your sad coffin.
2017 - 23.1 PPG
2018 - 29.8 PPG

Yes they ran the same in 2018, but with more overall plays per game.

Fuzzy MadHominem math
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:18 pm to
Wrong again you posted 2 years out of 7. That’s called cherry picking and those were years he was getting blown out every game and had to throw it. I posted his career stats. You’re such a retard it’s getting to be pathetic.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 5:19 pm
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:19 pm to
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Les Miles run pass ratio is 39.1% to 60.9% that’s a 3% difference not 26% you idiot. Take your L and start lying about something else.


Miles isn’t part of the equation, genius. We’re talking Orgeron with and without Canada

2017 23.1 PPG
2018 - 29.8 PPG

29.8 - 23.1 = 6.7
6.7/23.1 = 0.29

You’re right!!!!! Orgeron didn’t pass 26% more, it was 29% more!!!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:20 pm to
Miles is known to be a run heavy coach the comparison shows that Orgeron is basucally the same. Keep deflecting
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:20 pm to
One thing I will Give O and Ensminger credit for is not bailing on the passing game when it was tough.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59912 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:21 pm to
Lmfao lmfao you can’t do math

First Kunt math: 42.9% - 39.1% = 29%


Pahahaha
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:26 pm to
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And you used to argue we didn’t need to replace Ensminger.


We don't. At least not this season.

Just on talent and experience we will improve. Now as far as developing QBs down the line we definitely need someone else to step up.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283724 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:27 pm to
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Ultimately he's the expert and I'm not.


There you go. Sounds like you listened to sound advice here

We will see how long this lasts
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:28 pm to
Reality hurts boy.
Orgerons career (not Kunts cherry picked stats)

2005- 33.7 pass, 30.2 run, 6 blowout losses
2006- 23.3 pass, 35.2 run
2007- 32.6 pass, 31.6 run, 6 blowout losses
2013- 27.8 pass, 38.1 run, 6-2 record
2016- 24.8 pass, 38.2 run, 6-2 (Ensminger)
2017- 23.1 pass, 43.3 run
2018- 29.8 pass, 43.0 run (Ensminger)

Lmfao yea he’s a pass heavy coach
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:29 pm to
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2018- 29.8 pass


I can dig it.

Bet we top that this year too
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 5:30 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76174 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:31 pm to
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We don't. At least not this season.


Ok cool. Maybe tell O and Brady that
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283724 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:32 pm to
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Ok cool. Maybe tell O and Brady that


Ensminger is still the OC.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76174 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:33 pm to
Sure

And I think he’ll call plays

But O just said the offense was different
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:33 pm to
Everyone has soften their stance since Alleva was sent packing. There was the feeling O was here no matter what he did because Alleva was so invested in O he would stick with him. With Joe gone, everyone feels better knowing he wins the west or hes gone.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59912 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:35 pm to
I think you’re right, I don’t see why we wouldn’t make Burrow and the WR corps the center of the offense. I’m just hoping Brady has as much input as possible and Ensminger picks up what Brady is bringing with him.
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