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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:07 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:07 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
My link is common sense. Coaches get fired for losing games.
If we'd won at Wisconsin and Auburn, he would not have been fired. Hell, if we'd won either one of those, he would not have been fired.
The overwhelming majority of coaches ever fired were fired for losing too many games. Other reasons are mapped onto that, but it's almost always in the context of losing too many games.
If we'd won at Wisconsin and Auburn, he would not have been fired. Hell, if we'd won either one of those, he would not have been fired.
The overwhelming majority of coaches ever fired were fired for losing too many games. Other reasons are mapped onto that, but it's almost always in the context of losing too many games.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:10 pm
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:20 pm to Goldrush25
quote:So you demand links, but can't provide any. Yeah, not surprised.
My link is common sense. Coaches get fired for losing games.
It is clear that the O-Bashers want to set 11 wins as the bench mark. That's the new narrative. Fewer than 11 wins means the Bashers will start screaming for O's scalp.
After all, "Miles got fired for winning 10 games". Right? And the actual fact that Miles got fired for his passing game fricks up your bogus narrative. So lame.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:23 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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So you demand links, but can't provide any. Yeah, not surprised.
Just answer this question; Do you think Les Miles would've been fired if he were 3-1 or 4-0 with that same offense?
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It is clear that the O-Bashers want to set 11 wins as the bench mark
We're favored in 11 out of 12 games. What's wrong with expecting to win the games in which we're favored?
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After all, "Miles got fired for winning 10 games". Right? And the actual fact that Miles got fired for his passing game fricks up your bogus narrative. So lame.
You are losing it. If the thought that a coach would get fired for losing games makes no sense to you, you may need a psychiatric evaluation, or to take a break from the board.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:25 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
So you’re saying we don’t need to win anymore games than Les was winning as long as we have a good offense?
Because that’s what you’re saying.
At ANY school at some point the new coach has to be expected to do better than the coach who got fired. Offense that doesn’t lead to more wins isn’t worth anything.
Because that’s what you’re saying.
At ANY school at some point the new coach has to be expected to do better than the coach who got fired. Offense that doesn’t lead to more wins isn’t worth anything.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:28 pm to SammyTiger
You picked up on something. I didn't see what he was doing at first but you're right. He wants to define "success" as something other than winning more than the previous coach did. Which of course makes no sense.
So if he makes Miles's firing about the offense and not about the wins and losses, then he gets to define this season as a success even if we only win 10 games or so, just because we improved the offense. That's still bullshite because even Miles had good offensive years sometimes.
I think he's seeing that 11 games is indeed a tall task to complete. But hey, that's what was expected of anyone that took over for Les Miles. That's what the head coach signed up for. That's what Burrow signed up for. They have to get it done.
So if he makes Miles's firing about the offense and not about the wins and losses, then he gets to define this season as a success even if we only win 10 games or so, just because we improved the offense. That's still bullshite because even Miles had good offensive years sometimes.
I think he's seeing that 11 games is indeed a tall task to complete. But hey, that's what was expected of anyone that took over for Les Miles. That's what the head coach signed up for. That's what Burrow signed up for. They have to get it done.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:32 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Do you have even a rudimentary understanding of who the shot-callers are in college football?
Just answer this question; Do you think Les Miles would've been fired if he were 3-1 or 4-0 with that same offense?
By and large, the big money boosters run it at EVERY program. Always have. Always will. When the program needs a $50,000,000 facility or a $200,000,000 renovation, who writes the lions share of the checks? The big boosters do. But before they write that check, they have a heart-to-heart with the HC, AD, Prez., etc. If they get an agreement that LSU will go all out to bring in an elite passing game, then the HC sure as hell better deliver. If not, he's toast.
Like Les Miles.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:33 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Just answer the question. Do you think Les Miles would've still been fired if he were 4-0 with that same offense?
Miles lasted 12 seasons with having a substandard offense. You know how he did that? He won a couple of SEC championships and a NC. That wasn't due to an elite passing attack.
Miles lasted 12 seasons with having a substandard offense. You know how he did that? He won a couple of SEC championships and a NC. That wasn't due to an elite passing attack.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:35 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Yes. He poked the Papa Bears. They may have had to wait a little longer, but he was a dead man walking.
Just answer the question. Do you think Les Miles would've still been fired if he were 4-0 with that same offense?
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:38 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
ust answer the question. Do you think Les Miles would've still been fired if he were 4-0 with that same offense?
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Yes
Thank you for saying this.
This is manna from heaven.This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:38 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Yes
Lol
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:42 pm to Goldrush25
Jeez, that guy's credibility can't get any lower than it is now.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:43 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
Just answer the question. Do you think Les Miles would've still been fired if he were 4-0 with that same offense? Miles lasted 12 seasons with having a substandard offense. You know how he did that? He won a couple of SEC championships and a NC. That wasn't due to an elite passing attack.
Who besides you and the other mouth breathers give a shite???
Give it up, man!! It's Miles, Canada, Miles, then Canada....wash, rinse, repeat.
Find something worth talking about. Some fresh takes.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:43 pm to Damone
His buddies aren't going to even touch this one.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:43 pm to Goldrush25
Honestly I expect O to win 11 games and think we’ll win 11 games. This year.
I really Think we’ll live up to expectations.
I really Think we’ll live up to expectations.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:44 pm to SammyTiger
I expect it too. I don't know why Buckeye is trying to set the expectations lower.
He thinks Burrow is one of the best QBs in the country but we can't win the games we're supposed to win?
He thinks Burrow is one of the best QBs in the country but we can't win the games we're supposed to win?
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:45 pm to Goldrush25
quote:And thank you for confirming that you have never been near enough to a college football program to have even the faintest understanding of how the internal politics work at pretty much every school in the nation.
Thank you for saying this. This is manna from heaven.
Money talks, bullshite walks. & If you piss off the billionaire boy's club, you're toast.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:49 pm to Le Tenia
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Who besides you and the other mouth breathers give a shite???
Give it up, man!! It's Miles, Canada, Miles, then Canada....wash, rinse, repeat.
Find something worth talking about. Some fresh takes.
As long as people move the goalposts for O, these things will continue. It's that simple. Stop moving them and people will stop talking about where they were.
Or, at the very least, people should admit that their expectations are different and that they expect less from O. The entirety of these threads involve 1) People arguing different different standards for O in a variety of ways 2) People trying to adhere to the old standards that weren't good enough for the previous coach
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:50 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Yes.
woof.
People get yelled at for insinuating that a 10-3 coach is on a hot seat. But a 4-0 coach with a favorable schedule coming up is ok to fire?
How does this not directly illustrate the point in my previous post?
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:52 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You’re not an LSU booster
The Boosters were fine in 2011 up until the championship.
People only care about the parts when you’re not finishing 1st.
Pretending Les would be here is we spread the Ball out all over the place but still went 2-2 to start 2016 isn’t true.
Les hasn’t won a NC since 2007. He wasn’t competing with Bama anymore l.
You can’t do that no matter what your Offense looks like and expect to keep your job.
The Boosters were fine in 2011 up until the championship.
People only care about the parts when you’re not finishing 1st.
Pretending Les would be here is we spread the Ball out all over the place but still went 2-2 to start 2016 isn’t true.
Les hasn’t won a NC since 2007. He wasn’t competing with Bama anymore l.
You can’t do that no matter what your Offense looks like and expect to keep your job.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:56 pm to Freauxzen
quote:No ta question of OK or not. It is a question of whether that coach lived up to a promise he made to the big boys. Hate to break this to you, but life ain't always fair.
People get yelled at for insinuating that a 10-3 coach is on a hot seat. But a 4-0 coach with a favorable schedule coming up is ok to fire?
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