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re: Guice needs 2008 yds to pass LF. Will he?

Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:07 pm to
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I know it's not the accepted dogma in P&G land, but, for 3 years, LF has demonstrated pretty suspect vision.


Every single person paid to evaluate talent says LF'S vision is one of his strengths. Everyone. Find one scouting report saying otherwise.
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don't know why this has become such a huge blow up point on this board though.

If you want to say Guice has better vision then thats fine but in no way is LF'S vision in question and his vision is a strength.

You dont have the 2nd best rushing season in sec history,while having the 103rd ranked passing attack, and have bad or suspect vision.
IMO its not Guice's vision that makes him good. It's his lateral quickness, jumpcuts,and his acceleration.
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I mean, it's a damned site better than us being like, "frick, now what" when LF leaves.



Everyone knows Guice is the man next year and has been a beast since stepping foot on campus.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:07 pm to
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So you think its crazy that a rb with 400 less carries has a better ypc than the rb with 400 more carries?
No. However, considering Guice actually does just as good when his carries go up, I think he will hover around 7.8YPC for his career.

He averages 11 attempts per game in his career

In games where he attempts under his avg, his YPC is 47/367-----7.80YPC

In games where he attempts over his avg, his YPC is 187/1456------7.79YPC



It shows to me his YPC is not inflated due to being a low volume running back. He keeps his YPC even when his carries increase
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:12 pm to
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DG had 50 carries and LF had 450, yeah, it would be an awful comparison.


400 carries is a huge difference.

Also LF played twice against bama.

Take out bama in 2015 and LF smashes the single season ypc record and he breaks Herschel walkers record of rushing yards per game.

We both agree Guice is a beast. I just dont find it surprising that a rb of Guice's caliber has a better ypc than LF with 400 less carries.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:16 pm to
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However, considering Guice actually does just as good when his carries go up, I think he will hover around 7.8YPC for his career.


Except no it doesnt. 2 of his 4 highest carry games are well below his ypc.

the 2nd best rush defense he faced this year was 84th in opponents rushing yards per game. come on
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Except no it doesnt. 2 of his 4 highest carry games are well below his ypc.
And 1 of his highest game is well above his average

And his actual highest game of 37 carries is right on his average.....
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:22 pm to
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And 1 of his highest game is above his well above his average


So you are on record saying next year his ypc goes up?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:22 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95111 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:22 pm to
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So you are on record saying next year his ypc goes up?
No. I am on record saying it will stay around 7.8
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:23 pm to
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No. I am on record saying it will stay around 7.8




So you think next year Guice will smash the sec record for ypc by almost a full yard?.

So guice will have a higher ypc than Barry Sanders Heisman winning season?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:24 pm to
Nope....
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95111 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:24 pm to
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So you think next year Guice will smash the sec record for ypc by almost a full yard?.
No. I think he averages around 7.8YPC

This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:26 pm to
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It's attainable, rather see him and the team get a natty.

If we have any shot at a national title Guice has to have a monster year.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:26 pm to
There is no way Guice averages 7.8 ypc for a season. Id bet you but i will never make a bet that makes me pull against a lsu player.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:29 pm to
Thats list isnt right.
Jeremy hill set the record in 2013 at 6.9 and Chubb broke it the next year.
The guys on your list didnt have enough carries to get the record.



So you expect Guice to break every lsu rushing record next year?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:31 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95111 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:31 pm to
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So you expect Guice to break every lsu rushing record next year?
Yes. Dude, I think he is the best running back in LSU history. I have said that since he stepped foot on campus. You disagree. No need to keep asking me about it
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:31 pm to
And you expect Guice to break the sec rushing yards per game record too?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95111 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:32 pm to
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And you expect Guice to break the sec rushing yards per game record too?
Yes. Well, maybe. Not sure how many carries Canada will give him
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Dude, I think he is the best running back in LSU history. I have said that since he stepped foot on campus. You disagree. No need to keep asking me about it


There is a difference in thinking someone is great and expecting him to shatter the sec single season ypc( which is 7.1, those other guys didnt have enough carries to qualify) and breaking every sec rushing record.

Ok my bad carry on . I hope he breaks them too.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:35 pm to
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Yes. Well, maybe. Not sure how many carries Canada will give him


Why do you think LF will be a better pro? Didnt you say that on the rant? I may be mistaken
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95111 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:35 pm to
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Why do you think LF will be a better pro?
No

Guice will be the better pro
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:36 pm to
I'll bet he doubles LFs output against Bama.
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