re: Guice needs 2008 yds to pass LF. Will he?

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Hopefully lsu can pass the ball next year and we arent running guice 20 times a game.

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We damn well better run Guice at least 20 times a game. You act like we have some all-American QB.

Personally I don't care. I'm not going to say they need to protect him, but they need to be prudent with his usage. The depth is not good if he goes down because of overuse.

Guice averaged 162 YPG in the 8 games that he carried the ball more than 5 times.

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Honestly, no. It's not.

I know. On this board, saying that somehow amounts to treason.

But, it is what it is.

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I also think Guice is better. But 1.6 YPC better is astounding

And the retort will be

"it is easy to have a higher YPC when you are the change of pace back and get less carries."


Well, here are Guices YPC when he is the starting bell cow running back

19/155 ---- 8.2 YPC

17/163----- 9.6YPC

16/162 ----- 10.1YPC

21/252------12 YPC

19/83 ------4.4YPC

37/285-----7.7YPC

26/138------5.3YPC

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You do realize that the more carries you have the harder it is to keep your ypc number up, right?

LF has 400 more carries than Guice. It would be more shocking if LF had a higher ypc than Guice.

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Right on time


And the retort will be

"it is easy to have a higher YPC when you are the change of pace back and get less carries."


Well, here are Guices YPC when he is the starting bell cow running back

19/155 ---- 8.2 YPC

17/163----- 9.6YPC

16/162 ----- 10.1YPC

21/252------12 YPC

19/83 ------4.4YPC

37/285-----7.7YPC

26/138------5.3YPC

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Right on time

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I edited trying to not be so condescending brother. Sorry.

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I edited trying to not be so condescending brother. Sorry.

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Well, I still disagree with you. Guice YPC as the bell cow running back is 7.98 YPC


Dude gets better with more carries....

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Dude gets better with more carries....

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What? 2 of his 3 highest carries are below his average.

I cant believe im even having to discuss this.

I know it's not the accepted dogma in P&G land, but, for 3 years, LF has demonstrated pretty suspect vision.

Now, that obviously doesn't mean he sucks. I mean, he's stupid fast for his size(or fast period). If the lane opens up, you have to pity the LB or DB that seems him coming downhill.

But, all backs, given a solid blocking lane, will gain yards. LF is just more likely than them to steamroll some guy and take it to the house.

HOWEVER, all the backs I ever watched in my life that I considered elite and reliable were guys that I routinely found myself saying, "what in the frick.......there wasn't a damned thing there and he got 4 yards".

I've seen Guice do that MANY times. LF? Not so much.

If both of them get a lane off tackle, who do I expect to steamroll the guy and go to the house? LF.

If both get mediocre blocking but there's still a seam to work with, who do I expect to pick up 8? DG.

I don't know why this has become such a huge blow up point on this board though. We should be happy that there are people who see Guice and think he's possibly better even if other people think they're wrong.

I mean, it's a damned site better than us being like, "frick, now what" when LF leaves.

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So you think its crazy that a rb with 400 less carries has a better ypc than the rb with 400 more carries? Why does the ncaa and the nfl have a minimum requirement of carries for ypc record books?

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If DG had 50 carries and LF had 450, yeah, it would be an awful comparison.