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re: Guice and Jackson practicing kickoffs with Fournette
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:27 pm to therick711
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:27 pm to therick711
Downvote all you want, but Gurley's biggest injury occurred on a six-yard run in garbage time against Auburn. He didn't get hurt returning kicks.
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:27 pm to massiveattack
I'm one of the few that want to see LF back there. He had good numbers last year, and he is only going to get better at it. I could see him taking 2-4 to the house this year, along with some other long runbacks. I also think if he is to win the Heisman, that would be what puts him over the top, in a close game that has a lot of meaning.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:28 pm to marcnbc
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Gurley handled KO's pretty well for UGA and carried the ball more than LF ever will at LSU. Put your best players at each position...period.
Awful example if you're trying to justify putting LF back there. He was injured a lot in college and didn't even return kicks all the time.
And for those that say "he didn't get hurt on kick returns", exhaustion leads to injuries and more wear-and-tear also makes one more susceptible to bad injuries. Those are just facts.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:29 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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I'm one of the few that want to see LF back there. He had good numbers last year, and he is only going to get better at it. I could see him taking 2-4 to the house this year, along with some other long runbacks. I also think if he is to win the Heisman, that would be what puts him over the top, in a close game that has a lot of meaning.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:31 pm to JJ27
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And tore up his knee...
It was a non-contact injury...he planted his left foot and it tore...had nothing to do with KOR's. I saw Marcus Randall blow out his right knee in a spring game with a green jersey on(dropped back and planted his right foot & blew it out). Injuries are a part of the game.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:32 pm to TheCaterpillar
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And for those that say "he didn't get hurt on kick returns", exhaustion leads to injuries.
Tearing a ligament isn't an exhaustion injury. Further, you think maybe the 29 carries he had that day contributed more to his exhaustion than the, what, one return he had in that game.
If you're doing it right, you aren't returning a bunch of kicks anyway.
ALSO, Gurley missed tons of time in each of the last two seasons. His problem was not workload, just bad luck.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:37 pm to therick711
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Further, you think maybe the 29 carries he had that day contributed more to his exhaustion than the, what, one return he had in that game.
Absolutely. But why make it any worse if you don't have to?
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If you're doing it right, you aren't returning a bunch of kicks anyway.
Well we have a new DC so we will see
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Tearing a ligament isn't an exhaustion injury.
Any injury can be an exhaustion injury. He might not pick his spikes up enough and get rolled or be slower on a cut back than he should be and get lit up by a LB.
My point is that if increases chance of injury by 5%, that is too much. Hell, 1% is too much for me. We are filled with athletes that could be very damn good returners. Those 2 freshmen especially. I think we see them take it over.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:38 pm to therick711
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And for those that say "he didn't get hurt on kick returns", exhaustion leads to injuries. Tearing a ligament isn't an exhaustion injury. Further, you think maybe the 29 carries he had that day contributed more to his exhaustion than the, what, one return he had in that game. If you're doing it right, you aren't returning a bunch of kicks anyway.
You can't argue with some of these kids. They have it all figured out, and will talk out of their arse just to try and convince someone they have a clue. Most of the great ones have done it, Walker, Jackson, and many more. LF really started to come into his own towards the end of the season at it, and should probably be even better this year. He ran away from defenders on some of his runs, and one thing that can't be overlooked is that he had ball security.......that's huge to go with his explosiveness. Can you imagine having to tackle that big dude with a head of steam coming at you???
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:38 pm to TheCaterpillar
I will also add this isn't a huge deal to me. Won't lose sleep over it. Just arguing to argue
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:39 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Any injury can be an exhaustion injury. He might not pick his spikes up enough and get rolled or be slower on a cut back than he should be and get lit up by a LB.
My point is that if increases chance of injury by 5%, that is too much. Hell, 1% is too much for me. We are filled with athletes that could be very damn good returners. Those 2 freshmen especially. I think we see them take it over.
Go watch the carry he got hurt on and report back. Workload didn't hurt Gurley. He was suspended most of the year anyway. Kickoffs didn't have anything to do with it. By the way, his only return against Auburn was his first play of the day. The bottom line is it didn't have anything to do with his injury.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:40 pm to TheCaterpillar
I guess Kevin Faulk never should have returned punts and KO's at LSU...Dalton Hilliard, Domanick Davis?
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:41 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Can you imagine having to tackle that big dude with a head of steam coming at you???
Reuben Foster knocked him the frick back in our biggest game of the year. That scared the shite out of me. Glad he got up fine, but that kind of stuff makes me nervous.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:43 pm to marcnbc
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I guess Kevin Faulk never should have returned punts and KO's at LSU...Dalton Hilliard, Domanick Davis?
Punts are different IMO. Different skill set that way less players are elite at.
I'd take Eddie Kennison on kick returns 10/10 times over Faulk BTW.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:44 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Reuben Foster knocked him the frick back in our biggest game of the year
well now that you mention it, you are right. He probably goes down as fast as Holiday would go down with a solid hit.
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That scared the shite out of me.
Oh, I'm not surprised. You seem like one of those nervous types, kind of a knee-jerk type of guy...a chicken little so to speak. I could be wrong.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:47 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I'd take Eddie Kennison on kick returns 10/10 times over Faulk BTW.
They only played together one year('95)...Faulk did it the rest of his career at LSU.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:48 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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I could see him taking 2-4 to the house this year,
No way he runs that many back bc after he runs the first one back Noone will kick to him the rest of the year.
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:51 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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well now that you mention it, you are right. He probably goes down as fast as Holiday would go down with a solid hit.
Obviously not, what does that have to do with anything? I'm just stating despite his size, he could still get knocked the frick out of the game.
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Oh, I'm not surprised. You seem like one of those nervous types, kind of a knee-jerk type of guy...a chicken little so to speak. I could be wrong.
You're very, very wrong. I don't care that much about this, I'm just bored at work and feel like discussing shite. I just don't see the point of him returning kicks if we have other beasts we could put back there, especially if we want him to get 20 carries a game. Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:52 pm to marcnbc
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They only played together one year('95)...Faulk did it the rest of his career at LSU.
And Faulk had tons of other 5 star athletes on his team that could've spelled him from those duties...
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:54 pm to massiveattack
Jackson have the speed ..... however fournette seemed to gain a feel for following blocks toward the end of the past season
Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:55 pm to therick711
The point is that the marginal gain, if even existent (I tend to think Donte Jackson could be a much better KR for us) is not worth the marginal risk of injury.
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