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re: Greg Doyell's latest column on Jeremy Hill
Posted on 8/6/13 at 12:03 pm to cameroncrazy2304
Posted on 8/6/13 at 12:03 pm to cameroncrazy2304
Another sanctimonious aspiring muckraker trying to make Hill an emblem of corrupt college athletics without even acquainting himself with the facts. Pathetic.
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:25 pm to The312
It really is. I bet they wouldn't act that way if it were their son who did the same. Miles is like a father figure to these guys and I support his decisions so far
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:28 pm to Tiger Voodoo
I have thought about the JH situation and have been all over the board on how the situation should be handled. In retrospect, I think the situation has been handled about as well as it could be handled from the legal aspect, the team aspect, the athletic department aspect, the victim's aspect, and the coaching aspect. (I think Coach Miles has plans to work the rust off and get him in shape, hopefully, by the TCU game.)
Most girls mature physically earlier than boys and there seems to be a natural attraction of 2, 3, or 4 years in high school age students.
I do not condone what was done, but let's not pass out too severe judgment on two high school kids engaging in activities they should not have engaged in.
How many 18-19-20 year old guys date girls under 18 years of age? Are they all sexual predators? Oh! I forgot----if you do not get caught, it is okay.
As for the bar fight, both would have been better advised to be at home at 2:00 a.m. Booze, high testosterone levels, and an unbridled tongue usually ends in an altercation. Two wise pieces of advice my father gave me:
1). Do not be where you should not be.
2). Do not let your mouth overload your A$$*&^%$.
Both guys were wrong. One did not have the moral right to run his mouth and the other did not have the moral or legal right to hit the other.
The professionals that are paid big bucks have appropriately rendered their decisions. Les will render the final discipline as Les sees fit.
Time for all fans to move on. This situation is done.
Let the writers print what they wish, just get the facts correct.
Most girls mature physically earlier than boys and there seems to be a natural attraction of 2, 3, or 4 years in high school age students.
I do not condone what was done, but let's not pass out too severe judgment on two high school kids engaging in activities they should not have engaged in.
How many 18-19-20 year old guys date girls under 18 years of age? Are they all sexual predators? Oh! I forgot----if you do not get caught, it is okay.
As for the bar fight, both would have been better advised to be at home at 2:00 a.m. Booze, high testosterone levels, and an unbridled tongue usually ends in an altercation. Two wise pieces of advice my father gave me:
1). Do not be where you should not be.
2). Do not let your mouth overload your A$$*&^%$.
Both guys were wrong. One did not have the moral right to run his mouth and the other did not have the moral or legal right to hit the other.
The professionals that are paid big bucks have appropriately rendered their decisions. Les will render the final discipline as Les sees fit.
Time for all fans to move on. This situation is done.
Let the writers print what they wish, just get the facts correct.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:40 pm to cameroncrazy2304
I kind of wonder what it would take to have the university put out a cease and desist order on this guy.
He insinuates that Hill forcibly raped this girl. He then calls him a violent predator.
Hill was charged with two misdemeanors, he isn't stalking women and killing people.
I realize it is probably more of a ratings ploy, but it is truly sad to see the circle jerk on his twitter feed.
He insinuates that Hill forcibly raped this girl. He then calls him a violent predator.
Hill was charged with two misdemeanors, he isn't stalking women and killing people.
I realize it is probably more of a ratings ploy, but it is truly sad to see the circle jerk on his twitter feed.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:44 pm to The312
As bad as this Doyel column was on Hill, his first one was worse.
In his July 14th masterpiece on Jeremy Hill and Les Miles, Hill was a "violent predator". Now, he's gone from violent to vicious.
You guys have to understand what Doyel is trying to suggest. Doyel has written dozens of very angry columns about the Penn State affair. In Doyel's opinion, Joe Paterno is the most worthless person ever to walk the face of the earth. When he calls Hill a "vicious predator" he doesn't mean the bar fight. He means the incident with he girl. He wants people to see Jeremy Hill as Jerry Sandusky and Les Miles as Joe Paterno.
In order to accomplish this, he uses outlandish language such as vicious predator. He then proceeds to totally ignore the facts of the case and makes up his own. In Doyel's world, Hill forced this poor innocent unsuspecting girl to, you know, by quoting the criminal code directly instead of considering the whole incident in context. In reality, this "poor innocent unsuspecting girl" was a willing participant and bragged about it on Facebook afterwards, whcih is how this all got out in the first place. Doyel, both on July 14th and today, can't seem to bring himself to mention that little tidbit.
It doesn't fit the story he is trying to tell. He wants this to be the new Penn State, and Les Miles to be the new Joe Paterno, and he, the almighty self righteous grandstander Gregg Doyel, to be the one journalist brave enough to expose it all.
Then, Doyel wants everyone to see just the 10 seconds of video and make assumption, and not try to draw conclusions as to what caused the fight. In Doyel's world, this poor guy was minding his own business when Hill out of nowhere clocked him at random. I would love for it to officially come out that the victim here used the N-Word towards Hill (we think thats what happened but we do not know for sure). Why would that be great? Because a few days after the July 14th Hill column, Doyel wrote another piece where he called Dan Snyder a racist for not changing the name of the Washington Redskins, and used comments supposedly made by Art Monk and Darrell Green as suport for this. (Was very funny when the next day Green said he was taken totally out of context and that he and Monk do not think the name of the team should be changed, just that the issue was worth discussing) He compared Dan Snyder to George Wallace.
Gregg Doyel is an extremely troubled hateful person who somehow CBS is granting bandwidth to spew his hateful rhetoric. Sooner or later, peopel like that will say the wrong thing and his career will come to an end and we will all rejoyce when that happens.
In his July 14th masterpiece on Jeremy Hill and Les Miles, Hill was a "violent predator". Now, he's gone from violent to vicious.
You guys have to understand what Doyel is trying to suggest. Doyel has written dozens of very angry columns about the Penn State affair. In Doyel's opinion, Joe Paterno is the most worthless person ever to walk the face of the earth. When he calls Hill a "vicious predator" he doesn't mean the bar fight. He means the incident with he girl. He wants people to see Jeremy Hill as Jerry Sandusky and Les Miles as Joe Paterno.
In order to accomplish this, he uses outlandish language such as vicious predator. He then proceeds to totally ignore the facts of the case and makes up his own. In Doyel's world, Hill forced this poor innocent unsuspecting girl to, you know, by quoting the criminal code directly instead of considering the whole incident in context. In reality, this "poor innocent unsuspecting girl" was a willing participant and bragged about it on Facebook afterwards, whcih is how this all got out in the first place. Doyel, both on July 14th and today, can't seem to bring himself to mention that little tidbit.
It doesn't fit the story he is trying to tell. He wants this to be the new Penn State, and Les Miles to be the new Joe Paterno, and he, the almighty self righteous grandstander Gregg Doyel, to be the one journalist brave enough to expose it all.
Then, Doyel wants everyone to see just the 10 seconds of video and make assumption, and not try to draw conclusions as to what caused the fight. In Doyel's world, this poor guy was minding his own business when Hill out of nowhere clocked him at random. I would love for it to officially come out that the victim here used the N-Word towards Hill (we think thats what happened but we do not know for sure). Why would that be great? Because a few days after the July 14th Hill column, Doyel wrote another piece where he called Dan Snyder a racist for not changing the name of the Washington Redskins, and used comments supposedly made by Art Monk and Darrell Green as suport for this. (Was very funny when the next day Green said he was taken totally out of context and that he and Monk do not think the name of the team should be changed, just that the issue was worth discussing) He compared Dan Snyder to George Wallace.
Gregg Doyel is an extremely troubled hateful person who somehow CBS is granting bandwidth to spew his hateful rhetoric. Sooner or later, peopel like that will say the wrong thing and his career will come to an end and we will all rejoyce when that happens.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:48 pm to LSUROXS
Looks like Greg is just going to have to cry over this.
I wonder how many BJs he's had?
I wonder how many BJs he's had?
Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:14 pm to SOL
My post from the first page:
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He's trolling extra hard lately because CBSsports.com is laying off people left and right and he's doing everything he can for traffic to keep his job.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:19 pm to sbrian3915
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I would love for it to officially come out that the victim here used the N-Word towards Hill
Hasn't Riley Cooper been crucified in the press for doing the same thing.
All the media talk blasting Cooper for how "hateful" and "inflammatory" his language was then turn around and act outraged that Hill reacted the way he did.
Well, does the word have that kind of power or doesn't it?
Nothing gives Hill the right to do what he did. He's being disciplined by the legal system and Miles for his actions. But for the very same reason Cooper is being ridiculed the way he is, no one should be shocked that Hill's situation played out the way it did because of the nature of the word itself.
Not defending Cooper or Hill's actions ftr. But the media members blasting them both are simply non-sensical.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:25 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Doyel just twitted me after I said his article was full of half truths and lies.
he ask, "where's the lies or misinformation, Seriously, tell me"
first lie :Hill pressured a 14 year old into oral sex!
he ask, "where's the lies or misinformation, Seriously, tell me"
first lie :Hill pressured a 14 year old into oral sex!
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 2:26 pm
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