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re: Good article comparing JJ to Jason Campbell and their similar stats
Posted on 7/13/11 at 2:18 pm to TIGRLEE
Posted on 7/13/11 at 2:18 pm to TIGRLEE
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1) couldnt disagree more
JJ Does have the stronger arm than Lee, Lee is slightly more accurate (when he doesn't throw off his back foot)
2)I don't know about this, really unsure who throws a better deep ball. But JJ has the bigger arm.
3)JJ's wind up is bad. Krags has to be working on that.
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Posted on 7/13/11 at 2:21 pm to Hulkklogan
Im not saying Jlee has a bigger arm than JJ and I havent seen JJ and Jlee line up and throw in a competition.
But what I have done, is seen both of them play on the field and at no point have I or anyone else I know say.. "wow JJ sure has a bigger arm than Lee"
I think both guys can physically make all the throws.
Just me though.
But what I have done, is seen both of them play on the field and at no point have I or anyone else I know say.. "wow JJ sure has a bigger arm than Lee"
I think both guys can physically make all the throws.
Just me though.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 2:30 pm to TIGRLEE
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Nah, my user name has nothing to do with JLee.
Scouts honor.
Glad to hear it and I'll take your word on that.
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Why you gotta bring race into this?
It's a joke.
But I have a hunch if LSU had a white QB coming off a 11-2 season and a big bowl win where dude scored 4 TDs some of you wouldn't be so quick to jump his case before he's even played a down this season. Unprovable, but like I said it's a hunch.
I'm willing to wait and see how he does against Oregon. If JJ fails to produce, we've got two QBs waiting in the wings. But for now, it's JJ's job to lose.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 2:36 pm to Raparooot
JJ at manning camp
Archie talking about how senior seasons can always be special for qbs. So why not JJ?
Archie talking about how senior seasons can always be special for qbs. So why not JJ?
Posted on 7/13/11 at 3:46 pm to drexyl
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how does not throwing in the towel on the season b/c he's the starter = a loyal and devoted fan club?
It's obviously not those people I am addressing. I would say you are choosing an extreme alternative.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 3:47 pm to BigEdLSU
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13-1 BCs champs loss to miss st.
11-2. Losses to Bama and WVU. No matte who the QB is.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 3:49 pm to Choctaw
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JJ is a better passer than Lee.
No. He is a better runner. How you get he is a better passer based on what we have seen is beyond me.
He may have a better upside, but hasn't lived up to it yet.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 3:50 pm to drexyl
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if dumbasses want to spend every fricking offseason with a gun in their mouth agonizing over the perceived impending demise of LSU football then that's their choice and their problem.
The demise of LSU football was last summer.
This summer it's, if not for JJ we would have gone 14-0 last season and be looking at back to back 14-0 seasons this year.
Some of us are text book my glass is always half empty guys.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 3:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How you get he is a better passer based on what we have seen is beyond me.
career completion % and QB rating
This post was edited on 7/13/11 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 7/13/11 at 3:52 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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This summer it's, if not for JJ we would have gone 14-0 last season and be looking at back to back 14-0 seasons this year.
No one is saying that. Link me to ANYONE who is. I have time and will wait. When you find it, address them.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 3:54 pm to Choctaw
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career completion %
Quite a bit of that came by completing 3 yard passes when LSU needed 6, in 09.
JJ has a better upside but just hasn't lived up to potential. Fair to say the jury is still out on him.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 3:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Career comp%
How you get he is a better passer based on what we have seen is beyond me.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This summer it's, if not for JJ we would have gone 14-0 last season and be looking at back to back 14-0 seasons this year.
No one is saying that
If you haven't noted post blaming JJ for our two L's or hinting he cost us/will cost us a shot at a NC, then you haven't been paying attention.
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Link me to ANYONE who is. I have time and will wait. When you find it, address them.
Sorry, but I have a job and don't have time to be your personal secretary, but thanks for the offer or maybe it was more like a demand.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:No. It didn't. The facts fail to support your supposition.quote:Quite a bit of that came by completing 3 yard passes when LSU needed 6, in 09.
career completion %
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Quite a bit of that came by completing 3 yard passes when LSU needed 6, in 09.
he had 12 yards/completion in '09
Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:25 pm to just me
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Quite a bit of that came by completing 3 yard passes when LSU needed 6, in 09.
No. It didn't. The facts fail to support your supposition.
Problem with the '09 team was productivity. Period. Offense had a difficult time moving the chains.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 7:19 pm to Raparooot
Other than that Jordan Jefferson and Jason Campbell have similar statistics going into their Senior seasons and both were criticized by their fanbase, I do not believe Jefferson and Campbell make a good comparison at all.
Undboutedly, Campbell had a great season in 2004, but, in my opinion, he was surrounded by even a greater team. Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Willams both came back for their SR years. I remember Campbell having all day to throw the ball and the ability to rely on a virtually unstoppable running game. Essentially, Campbell became a good decision-maker and allowed his running backs to carry the load. Brown and Williams could also catch passes out of the backfield.
I believe that Auburn team had 3 guys drafted in the first 10 picks of the draft along with Campbell in the first round, who was named SEC the player of the year. I think their run defense was one of the best in the country if not the best. They mauled every team they played except for LSU. That team even had some lesser known guys go on to have pretty good NFL careers.
Also, it is interesting to note. . . Campbell had a lot more time to develop physically and mentally. Jefferson is currently age 20 going into his SR season. Campbell was age 20 finishing up his redshirt freshmen season. Jefferson will be 21 playing in his final game, whereas Campbell was 24. I believe Jefferson could have benefitted greatly from a redshirt year. But, as we all know, he had to step in and play as a true freshmen.
Undboutedly, Campbell had a great season in 2004, but, in my opinion, he was surrounded by even a greater team. Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Willams both came back for their SR years. I remember Campbell having all day to throw the ball and the ability to rely on a virtually unstoppable running game. Essentially, Campbell became a good decision-maker and allowed his running backs to carry the load. Brown and Williams could also catch passes out of the backfield.
I believe that Auburn team had 3 guys drafted in the first 10 picks of the draft along with Campbell in the first round, who was named SEC the player of the year. I think their run defense was one of the best in the country if not the best. They mauled every team they played except for LSU. That team even had some lesser known guys go on to have pretty good NFL careers.
Also, it is interesting to note. . . Campbell had a lot more time to develop physically and mentally. Jefferson is currently age 20 going into his SR season. Campbell was age 20 finishing up his redshirt freshmen season. Jefferson will be 21 playing in his final game, whereas Campbell was 24. I believe Jefferson could have benefitted greatly from a redshirt year. But, as we all know, he had to step in and play as a true freshmen.
Posted on 7/13/11 at 9:42 pm to Raparooot
bump
Posted on 7/14/11 at 7:39 am to drexyl
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if dumbasses want to spend every fricking offseason with a gun in their mouth agonizing over the perceived impending demise of LSU football then that's their choice and their problem
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