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re: Get used to players leaving!

Posted on 11/28/13 at 12:17 am to
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/28/13 at 12:17 am to
I agree

Just think being a star on a good college football team would be a blast, and a expierience you can never get back.
This post was edited on 11/28/13 at 12:19 am
Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
1525 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 4:31 am to
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"IF" you make an NFL roster, the minimum salary in 2014 is $420,000! For most of these broke college kids, a chance at that kind of dough is worth taking a chance at if they have any chance at all.
A degree in "General Studies" (As so many football players have) has almost no value in the job market on it own. If you're an LSU football player and stay in Louisiana after graduation, you'll have a job, but depending on your employer, it wont be a very high paying job. Will take many years (10-15) to gross $420,000 with a GS. The same "Program Supporters" that provide high paying summer jobs for football players, will hire many after graduation regardless of their competence or qualifications. That's just the way it is, like it or not.

You take that GS degree anywhere else out of state and you'll be laughed at. You'll be laughed at with a GS degree in Louisiana too if you're not an LSU football player. A GS degree is good if you plan on going on to Grad School or if you have a guaranteed job upon graduation because a relative (Or friend of a relative) owns a business and it's it's already known that you have a job waiting upon graduation. It's a crap shoot for everybody else.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30196 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 7:54 am to
Of course it's about money.

Do any of us really believe 80% of these kids would even be in college if they weren't playing football?

The problem for them is that many of the ones mentioned in the OP will never see a down of action in the NFL.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81439 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 7:58 am to
Welter should go pro. He has proven all he can prove.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:02 am to
3 years and a 5th round makes no sense.

Half these guys won't stick on a roster more than 2 years
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:14 am to
The league minimum is around $400k a year. If they have a chance to make that, even for a season or two, you cannot knock them for leaving early.

They can finance their education after that if they choose.
Posted by TigerGA
Georgia Coast
Member since Oct 2010
1219 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:18 am to
I believe it was Chavis that said if you're recruiting the right players, they're only going to be with a college program for three years anyway.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24105 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:18 am to
There is a greater chance for the NCAA to decrease the number of years for a kid to go pro than there is for an increase in the number of years. Especially if politicians get more involved and stress the unfairness of white-dominated baseball and hockey players getting to go earlier than football players which is predominately black. Its on Obama's list of things to ruin (college football).
Posted by Matrixman
Texas
Member since Apr 2010
719 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:20 am to
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The current NFL and College environment encourages this.


Money has corrupted collegiate football. I seriously doubt LSU will ever win another NC or the SEC for that matter. Les Miles is attempting to run an honest collegiate football program in an increaslingly corrupt collegiate football culture. I mean look at the Cam Newton debacle at Auburn under Gene Chizik. IMO SEC and NCAA investigators look the other way as money is funneled to collegiate football players. I mean it's common knowledge money was funneled to D. J. Fluker at Bama. I mean, Fluker admitted it in a Tweet on April 23, 2013, "Yea I took $ n college so what. I did wat i had to do. Agents was trying to pimp me so I pimped them. Cast da 1st stone." Stuff is getting out of control. Coaches like CLM increasingly find themselves under pressure to 'skirt the rules', or die. How can LSU compete with the growing corruption like this?

Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33265 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:22 am to
Put into context, they are lucky if they stick, just because you get a FA contract means nothing outside of one year. Talk about a crapshoot . Making $200k for one year is nothing and won't do anything towards paying for anything in today's world.

The false trade off is between making a few bucks for one or two years vs. winning a NC or having the pride to play LSU football (and then still get your chance at making money later).

I'll take the latter.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68791 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:30 am to
And then you blow out your knee and can't play anymore and never got paid
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:30 am to
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Making $200k for one year is nothing and won't do anything towards paying for anything in today's world.

Tell that to someone who has been poor all their life. I understand your point but most of these kids dreams aren't winning a college national championship. It's about being a successful professional football player and providing for themselves and their family.

If staying another year can get them closer to that, then of course they should stay but I doubt most of them are staying just to play for LSU or a NC.
Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
1435 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 8:46 am to
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Get used to players leaving!Reading all this speculation on whether OBJ, Landry, Hill, Blue, Hilliard, Freak, Ego, La'el, Welter (joke), and any other folks I am forgetting being a surprise to leave just really surprises me. They are ALL gone! The NFL is the ultimate goal. MONEY baby! They played their hearts out for LSU so it is there turn to make money. Why do any of you think they wouldn't go and make a living, doing what they love and can do well, and get paid? Any of you would do the same. Last year should have sold it to all LSU fans, that is what we are selling as a program! College education? REALLY?? Get real and wake up. I would love to have all those players back, not happening. WAKE UP! If we get any of those great TIGERS back, awesome, but chances are they are gone! Next year is rebuild or restructure or whatever the catch phrase is...get used to it. The current NFL and College environment encourages this.



I agree with you for the most part, but the NFL also means "Not For Long". Its up to coaches to help them see where they are ranked to be drafted(if at all), and whether they have maximized their potential in college to be early round picks. These guys have a much better chance of making a team and being given time to learn and adjust if they are drafted in rounds 1-3&4, because the club has invested a high draft pick in those players. Because they have invested a higher pick in those players, they will be given every opportunity to make the team. A guy that leaves early and probably shouldn't have, that is either a free agent, or low draft pick will have a much harder road to travel in order to make it. Some situations may be desperate enough to take that chance, but they better be mentally mature, because in that league there is not a lot of chances to be given. They are looking for the best players period, and don't care about your difficult circumstances, or if you made a mistake, were not ready, and left a little too early. At the end of the day, it is the player and their family decision, but I hope the coaches have a real heart to heart with some of them(particularly on defense), because they are not ready at this point. Offensively, Landry, Beckham, and Hill should likely leave, because they will all go between rounds 1 and early 3rd at the latest. Collins I think is a second rounder this year if he test well, but could be a first round lock next year at his position if he wishes to max out his draft status.

I hear a lot about even the low drafted/free agent players making a minimum of $200,000 to $400,000 a year, but that is only if you make the active 53 man roster which is very difficult as a free agent. Practice squad players make between $60,00 -$80,000, I believe, and they are constantly cut and moved around throughout the year. The one's that make the 53 man roster from a free agent or low pick usually take a year or two before they really crack that 53. That's why players should make sure they have maxed out their potential so they truly have the best chance to make it.
This post was edited on 11/28/13 at 8:58 am
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5683 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 9:06 am to
They will not all be gone, and if and when it all gets down to money the game will be in serious jeopardy.
Posted by GastonOverstreet
Westbanker
Member since Mar 2006
523 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:56 am to
quote:

These guys lay literally there lives on the field for some entertainment for all of us fans


Easy there pal. I agree with much that you are saying. Football is a contact sport, but the death rate is non-existent in D-I football. Have some respect for those that actually lay their lives on the line at work (Police, fire, military).

The players deserve credit for the amount of work done behind the scenes to stay eligible. They also sign scholarship paperwork to do all this extra work to be part of a team, get an education, and not pay for it. The quid pro quo is not that unbalanced. A lot of these guys live very well while enrolled, enjoying perks that would not be afforded without their affiliation to the football team.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 12:11 pm to
If you THINK all of those JUNIORS will leave EARLY, you are fooling YOURSELF! Wake UP! And REALIZE that just because they're JUNIORS that they will be LEAVING is a FANTASY!!!1!

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Posted by GeauxJeaux
Member since Jan 2006
428 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 1:33 pm to
I am in the Army
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
25637 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 2:10 pm to
"They can finance their education after that if they choose."

LOL, you do realize that after they buy a house (sorry I meant a CRIB) that is beyond what they need, buy multiple cars and pay their 'entourage', do you think they will be able to cover a financed ed-u-ma-cation!!
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11816 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 3:44 pm to
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Some of these kids aren't good students at all. Many come from terrible schools and don't have any foundation. In my opinion they have the right to make a living. Many of them don't have the academic skills to make 6 figure incomes.

OK, so let's back up and put the blame where it really belongs: The hard left's long time and ongoing intent to dumbify and destroy our educational system.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 3:45 pm to
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OK, so let's back up and put the blame where it really belongs: The hard left's long time and ongoing intent to dumbify and destroy our educational system.

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