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re: Game 3: Georgia 2, LSU 2 -FINAL/13- Travel Curfew Restrictions - LSU Wins Series

Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by LSU FAMILY
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:24 pm to
Bigger base running blunder was with none out & runner at 3rd & first, batter hits into double play & runner holds at 3rd. Should have scored easily.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:25 pm to
I listened to the last inning and a half on the radio, but it read a little bit in this thread. My comments are not directed at the last inning with Dean. They are directed at years of Paul Mainieri teams creating more outs on the bases than picking up an extra base. Paul Mainieri said after the game that Davis was telling him to go, but Dean thought he heard "no". That type of miscommunication can't happen in an SEC game when every single game is crucial to SEC standings, regional host sites, and Super Regional seedlings.

I made a post last night highlighting some of the problem, and it reared it's ugly head today with Ibarra. There are rules to think about before the play, but when the play is live, a bobbled ball can change how aggressive the runner should be. We aren't aggressive, we are wreckless.
Posted by lsuroadie
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:31 pm to
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Bigger base running blunder was with none out & runner at 3rd & first, batter hits into double play & runner holds at 3rd. Should have scored easily.


That was Laird, and the ball was lined directly at the first basemen. His first motion was to look Laird back at third. If he'd have bolted he would have had him dead to rights
Posted by BowDownToLSU
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:35 pm to
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My question to CPM would have been why pull your best hitter (KS) in the 7th I think.....would not have done that don't care if he's as slow as a calendar.
I think it was the 10th inning when (KS) got pulled. I'm with you though ,I would never pull him....I can't help but think he would have came through with another big hit to get one of those many base runners home
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:44 pm to
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That was Laird, and the ball was lined directly at the first basemen. His first motion was to look Laird back at third. If he'd have bolted he would have had him dead to rights


As soon as the 1B turns to throw to 2B, Laird should have run home. No brainer. Horrible base running mistake.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:46 pm to
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Laird would have been dead to rights


Well one out at home is better than two outs and a runner stranded at third base. If laird breaks home, the likely result is one out, and runners at first and second. That's much better than two outs and a runner at third base.
Posted by lsuroadie
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:01 pm to
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As soon as the 1B turns to throw to 2B, Laird should have run home. No brainer. Horrible base running mistake.



That would have been only chance. Laird should have been about 10 ft off the bag when ball was hit, but you have the right answer.
Posted by beauchristopher
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:03 pm to
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Dean would have been nailed. Easily. But you still could have sent him with the game on the line, but why with only 1 out?


What? There was one out already and when the ball was caught that made 2. You absolutely try to score there. It's your best chance to score.. even if the ball was hit on a line.

But I don't follow what you mean about Laird would have been thrown out easily? When? While they were in the process of turning two? The moment they threw down to second to get 2 he should have been going home (if he wasn't already going on contact)
Posted by Broham
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:06 pm to
Why doesn't he bunt McMullen with the bases loaded and 1 out in the 13th? You can't defend it if you lay a decent bunt down. I didn't get that.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:07 pm to
Force out at home?
Posted by Broham
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:09 pm to
Yeah if you bunt it right back to the mound. Come on man. If we if we bunt there and he lays it down, we win.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:14 pm to
Didn't we pop up two bunts today?
Posted by lsuroadie
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:15 pm to
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What? There was one out already and when the ball was caught that made 2. You absolutely try to score there. It's your best chance to score.. even if the ball was hit on a line.


You're correct there was only one out. If Dean goes there's a good chance he's thrown out. Not arguing if you take the chance. The ball was caught in very shallow left and if you watched the series this wkend UGA had a very capable catcher.

But not arguing at all that was a good chance to score.

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But I don't follow what you mean about Laird would have been thrown out easily? When? While they were in the process of turning two? The moment they threw down to second to get 2 he should have been going home (if he wasn't already going on contact)


Not doubting this. As soon as the first baseman fielded the ball he looked Laird back to third. Laird retreated, shouldn't have, but like I said above he should have been 10 ft off the bag.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:17 pm to
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Why doesn't he bunt McMullen with the bases loaded and 1 out in the 13th? You can't defend it if you lay a decent bunt down. I didn't get that.


:applause:
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:42 pm to
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And you don't know anything about baseball.


You don't know how much that hurts. I so highly value your opinion of me.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
58808 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:39 am to
Infield playing in its easier to hit a ball to the outfield than lay down a perfect bunt
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
58808 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:50 am to
I would start a thread on this but all the Negatigers would jump on me and say how I have purple and gold glasses on.

I'm not to concerned about our team yes we have hitting issues but we also appear to have one of the better staffs in the SEC. If we start to hit better we will be a hard team to beat. LSU has good hitters in the lineup who are struggling now.

McMullen is hitting well but killed big innings with two double plays
Scivicque is one of our better hitters
Bregman started sec play slow he will heat up though
Stevenson has shown great improvement will hit well I think.
Hale has looked good
Ibarra was a great hitter last year I think he will hit well soon
Laird may be one of the few bad spots in the lineup
Robertson if he can adjust to sec pitching he could hit well
Who ever plays either LF or C if Scivicque DH is the one spot I don't think improves.

LSU hitting is in a slump and I think we will hit better as the season goes on. That 13 inning tie left a bad taste in our mouths, I think we will be fine and still finish near the top of the SEC
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 6:52 am
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 8:26 am to
I definitely think this team has the potential and that our pitching will keep us in most games. They just aren't inspiring a lot of confidence in me right now. We would still have the same issues even if we had won 3-2 yesterday.

Luckily it looks like no one is going to run away with the SEC like last season. And only a couple of teams in the conference look like they can hit well (and we don't have to play 2 of them).
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 8:29 am to
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I definitely think this team has the potential and that our pitching will keep us in most games. They just aren't inspiring a lot of confidence in me right now. We would still have the same issues even if we had won 3-2 yesterday.

Luckily it looks like no one is going to run away with the SEC like last season. And only a couple of teams in the conference look like they can hit well.


As long as we don't finish in the bottom half of the SEC we will be in good shape for the post season. LSU always plays well in the SEC tourney. If we are top 5 and win the SEC tourney we will likely host a regional.

Note: I don't have much confidence either but I'm still holding out hope. To many people on here today are already writing this season off as a bad one.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 8:31 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
51152 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 8:33 am to
Whole story of the game summed up by 2-0 count on Robertson with bases loaded. Should have continued to work the count. Even with a 2-2 count he was going to get something to hit.
Of course, with the bats the way they are and the outfield in normal college softball depth, not only do you take away the walk off homerun but you also take away the walk off single.
Of course, if you scour the scores yet again this weekend - more no hitters being thrown - pitcher from Stony Brook that pitched in Super Regional threw his third no hitter in his career.
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