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re: Fournette says “for the first time in my life I have a quarterback”
Posted on 9/8/20 at 5:23 pm to CatfishJohn
Posted on 9/8/20 at 5:23 pm to CatfishJohn
Barry Sanders did pretty good.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 5:26 pm to SpookeyTiger
quote:And got so frustrated he quit in his prime.
Barry Sanders did pretty good.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 6:30 pm to tigerskin
He had who.... Jennings, Harris and Etling? Not sure about tRant's opinion, but that's a rough list. I'd have Etling as the overall best of the three.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 6:48 pm to SouthernInsanity
quote:Follow that up with Gabbert, Kessler, and Minchew. Against NFL defenses. Yuck.
He had who.... Jennings, Harris and Etling? Not sure about tRant's opinion, but that's a rough list. I'd have Etling as the overall best of the three.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 6:53 pm to Gravitiger
Mindshew finished the year 16th in passer rating, 20th on PFFs qb rankings. And he was third on pass plays greater than 20 yards. He was right around Nfl average
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 6:58 pm to lsupride87
So he had one year with an arguably average QB.
NFL passer rating is a terrible stat. 20th ranked per PFF, in a league with 32 starters. 16/17 would be average. 20 is 38th percentile. Not good. Not even average.
Jags are all in on the Minchew tank. Dude sells swag in the short run but he isn't a long term NFL starter.
I actually don't even think Leonard is a great NFL RB. He reminds me of Herschel Walker--bigger, faster, and stronger than everyone else in college, but lacks NFL vision and versatility (and I said so years ago).
But to his credit he has played with a bunch of shitty QB, which was the point of the OP.
NFL passer rating is a terrible stat. 20th ranked per PFF, in a league with 32 starters. 16/17 would be average. 20 is 38th percentile. Not good. Not even average.
Jags are all in on the Minchew tank. Dude sells swag in the short run but he isn't a long term NFL starter.
I actually don't even think Leonard is a great NFL RB. He reminds me of Herschel Walker--bigger, faster, and stronger than everyone else in college, but lacks NFL vision and versatility (and I said so years ago).
But to his credit he has played with a bunch of shitty QB, which was the point of the OP.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:04 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Considering how short the average RB career is in the NFL, he better put up and enjoy
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:14 pm to CatfishJohn
Walter Payton and Barry Sanders!
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:24 pm to Tigris Christi
quote:Payton played with a 2× All-American and Davey O'Brien winner.
Walter Payton and Barry Sanders!
Sanders played with one Heisman-winning QB and another runner-up.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:38 pm to Gravitiger
quote:are you drunk? No one single stat can tell the entire story, but passer rating is by far the best individual metric if you had to chose just one
NFL passer rating is a terrible stat.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:41 pm to lsupride87
quote:I am buzzed right now. But passer rating is still not a good metric. At all. Especially "if you had to choose just one". Literally every legit sport analytics person would disagree with you.
are you drunk? No one single stat can tell the entire story, but passer rating is by far the best individual metric if you had to chose just one
Even if it is the best (which it isn't), it's still awful. That only speaks to our limited ability to measure football.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:47 pm to tigerskin
Are we sure he has a QB this year?
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:48 pm to Gravitiger
quote:
But passer rating is still not a good metric. At all. Especially "if you had to choose just one". Literally every legit sport analytics person would disagree with you.

Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:51 pm to lsupride87
I mean, you're just wrong.
Either way, LOL at the irony of posting a Jags fan gif in this thread.
Either way, LOL at the irony of posting a Jags fan gif in this thread.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:05 pm to nitwit
quote:
As do yours.
Lol. Wut? Link me a post that I made on the poli board.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:10 pm to tigerskin
Fournette is just a middle of the road NFL starter. If you take off the purple and gold glasses, you see that clearly he hasn’t lived up to his elite (top 5 overall) RB status. And don’t blame the lack of QB play for that.
Of course he’s going to be the focal point of the defense. But elite players produce no matter the supporting cast.
Adrian Peterson had a 2k rushing season with Christian Ponder as his QB.
Of course he’s going to be the focal point of the defense. But elite players produce no matter the supporting cast.
Adrian Peterson had a 2k rushing season with Christian Ponder as his QB.
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