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Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:10 am to boxcar willie
Yea you do that you seem to need it.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:10 am to p&g
Thanks for proving my point once again
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:14 am to Madking
You have no point.
It doesn’t matter if LSU beat a #1 # 2 or # 3 ranked uga.
Quit grasping for straws and admit it was a defining win for O and the program.
It doesn’t matter if LSU beat a #1 # 2 or # 3 ranked uga.
Quit grasping for straws and admit it was a defining win for O and the program.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:20 am to p&g
Lmfao self proclamations the sign of a true loser. If it didn’t matter why lie about it? You can’t even be honest about going full melt over being caught in a lie. Instead you tried to twist it into me being negative for simply stating the truth. This is literally the first exchange
Posted by p&g online on 1/25/19 at 8:07 am to slackster
Meh, or historic wins vs top ranked uga, Miami in neutral environment, auburn in the road and a fiesta bowl win..... in the most current season.
However you choose to see things baw.
This post was edited on 1/25 at 8:08 am
Posted by Madking online on 1/25/19 at 8:10 am to p&g
And you claim others make stuff up. “Top ranked Georgia” was actually #2, when we played them which isn’t exactly #1 lol
Then you preceded to melt, hurl insults and stalk me.
Posted by p&g online on 1/25/19 at 8:07 am to slackster
Meh, or historic wins vs top ranked uga, Miami in neutral environment, auburn in the road and a fiesta bowl win..... in the most current season.
However you choose to see things baw.
This post was edited on 1/25 at 8:08 am
Posted by Madking online on 1/25/19 at 8:10 am to p&g
And you claim others make stuff up. “Top ranked Georgia” was actually #2, when we played them which isn’t exactly #1 lol
Then you preceded to melt, hurl insults and stalk me.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:00 am to boxcar willie
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you people seem to be mentally ill. Give it a break and get some sleep. stop and Eat, take a shite, a shower, go out side, try to get laid or jerk off. Anything. No wonder you see everything as being so bleak and are such negatively oriented people.
Its like you dont remember that you used to shite on everything lsu during the last regime. I swear some of you just believe your posts history isnt a real thing.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:01 am to p&g
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doesn’t matter if LSU beat a #1 # 2 or # 3 ranked u
It does if YOU call them top ranked and then habe the audacity to say other posters are lying.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:12 am to boxcar willie
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I am going to sleep now and when I awake I am going to check and I want to see some progress
It better be a long sleep!
Why can't we all agree that Miles' offense in the last year and a half got boring? I look at the AUb, GA, and Aggy games under Orgeron, and I felt far more entertained. Even though Orgeron didn't have the stable of stud RB's that Miles had, there were nice run and pass plays.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 10:21 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:38 am to TrueTigerTale
TrueTigerTale: Do you mind unpacking this little story? It sort of unravels from your OP to later comments.
You open with a lucid recollection of a conversation about "spending the night?" with some former players who were just gushing over the 5-3 SEC finish that O pulled off against all odds from a disastrous 6-6 Pre-Season Prediction, which you have beaten to death. This former player knows and repeats verbatim the talking points you post daily. Amazing. Crediting O for being better than Miles, great at player development, and knocking on Alabama's door. Well, today's predictions are that Fisher & Herman will win their Conferences with Fisher beating ALA at Kyle and both he and Herman beating LSU. Just a pundits prediction based on their continued Development and skills with Offense.
Then it gets a little vague around page 54: You are actually blistering drunk and admiring this Tarzan dude's physique sitting next to you playing poker. By now the truth emerges that you made up the OP and were actually having "a crazy night" and cannot remember anything. Truth revealed: Your style, I might add to lose the narrative and expose the whole thread as just an opportunity to incessantly heap praise on O who has not scored a Point vs ALA in 2 yrs in TS. Record vs ALA is what got Miles fired, ostensibly, if not stubbornness, or possibly the 'Pro O campaign' because he is "like us" dynamic. IDK. You explain.
At his Sunday Press Conference after becoming "permanent Coach" O's first remarks were to thank the Omnipresent Ponamsky for working tirelessly with Alleva to do the deed.
So we still do not have an Offensive Identity and where are those Offensive Mastermind Coaches we were promised - at A&M and Texas our 2 new Schedule challenges.
Now you and Ben promote a 10 yr Jumbo extension for O...a jobs program for you and Ben where you can afford more crazy drunken nights at the casinos.
ALA met the future of OFF at CLEM. But this did not concern you because you "see O coaching not just cheerleading". Clarifications? What did you see?
AP W/L
2011: 2 1 loss
2012: 14 3 losses
2013: 14 3 losses
2014: RV 5 losses
2015: 16 3 losses
2016: 13 4 losses
2017: 18 4 losses
2018: 6 3 losses
The Benchmark for Miles was he had to be "Competing for Championships" not "In the Hunt"....5-3 was seen as 'the decline is real'. Now finishing 5-3, lower in Off Scoring, and suffering a 29-0 beatdown, the worst home defeat in 44 yrs for a Top 5 team against the Gatekeeper of the SECW is Exceeding Expectations, 'We're Comin" and "Participation Trophy Time".
7th place finish in Off in SEC
0 pts vs Ala in last 2 home games with O&E
0-6 vs Saban, Mullen, Fisher
Same 5-3 SEC record as 2015 which was 6th in SEC vs tougher SOS and tougher SEC
Now where is the trend line going vs ALA?
You open with a lucid recollection of a conversation about "spending the night?" with some former players who were just gushing over the 5-3 SEC finish that O pulled off against all odds from a disastrous 6-6 Pre-Season Prediction, which you have beaten to death. This former player knows and repeats verbatim the talking points you post daily. Amazing. Crediting O for being better than Miles, great at player development, and knocking on Alabama's door. Well, today's predictions are that Fisher & Herman will win their Conferences with Fisher beating ALA at Kyle and both he and Herman beating LSU. Just a pundits prediction based on their continued Development and skills with Offense.
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Played poker most of the night with some former LSU players, also saw a few current Tigers roaming around. Some are going to New Orleans tomorrow to see the Saints play in the NFC title game. These Tigers were very impressed by the job Coach O and his assistants did in 2018. One former player, Dominic Cooper who was coached by both Saban and Miles, made it clear that Coach O and his staff are more talented than Miles and his assistants. He noted that LSU was picked to finish 6-6 in 2018, but instead, LSU's players came very close to finishing the season at 12-1. He credited that to great coaching and LSU's ability to prepare its players and making the right adjustments needed during a game. He also made it clear how respected and loved Coach O is among current and former LSU players. The next task for LSU coaches, he noted, is to prove that they can take on the big boys of Alabama, these former players feel very confident that LSU will.
Then it gets a little vague around page 54: You are actually blistering drunk and admiring this Tarzan dude's physique sitting next to you playing poker. By now the truth emerges that you made up the OP and were actually having "a crazy night" and cannot remember anything. Truth revealed: Your style, I might add to lose the narrative and expose the whole thread as just an opportunity to incessantly heap praise on O who has not scored a Point vs ALA in 2 yrs in TS. Record vs ALA is what got Miles fired, ostensibly, if not stubbornness, or possibly the 'Pro O campaign' because he is "like us" dynamic. IDK. You explain.
At his Sunday Press Conference after becoming "permanent Coach" O's first remarks were to thank the Omnipresent Ponamsky for working tirelessly with Alleva to do the deed.
So we still do not have an Offensive Identity and where are those Offensive Mastermind Coaches we were promised - at A&M and Texas our 2 new Schedule challenges.
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Cooper is one very huge and very athletic looking former Tiger, picture Tarzan with wide shoulders, a slim waist, at about 6'5. He sat right next to me playing poker, I asked where did he play ball, he replied LSU. Then he starting pointing out other former Tigers there, I had a hard time remembering their names, so he had to repeat them, I did have a few drinks in me at the time. But I was never going to forget Cooper's, he looked every bit like a professional athlete in the NFL. It was sort of a reunion of LSU players, at the casino and at the NFC title game in New Orleans which is where Cooper was headed to later. As I walked around the casino I also saw some current LSU players that I recognized and spoke to, but I won't name. It was one crazy night.
Now you and Ben promote a 10 yr Jumbo extension for O...a jobs program for you and Ben where you can afford more crazy drunken nights at the casinos.
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Ben, if LSU wins the SEC in 2019 which is a possibility, and Coach O gets a 10 year extension, these Ohaters might need straight jackets to prevent them from hurting themselves
ALA met the future of OFF at CLEM. But this did not concern you because you "see O coaching not just cheerleading". Clarifications? What did you see?
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Sammy, Alabama turned out shitty in the title game, no one saw that coming. My eyes are wide open, I want to see more offense and defense from the Tigers in 2019, it helps that I see Orgeron coaching not just “cheerleading” that has me feeling good about LSU.
AP W/L
2011: 2 1 loss
2012: 14 3 losses
2013: 14 3 losses
2014: RV 5 losses
2015: 16 3 losses
2016: 13 4 losses
2017: 18 4 losses
2018: 6 3 losses
The Benchmark for Miles was he had to be "Competing for Championships" not "In the Hunt"....5-3 was seen as 'the decline is real'. Now finishing 5-3, lower in Off Scoring, and suffering a 29-0 beatdown, the worst home defeat in 44 yrs for a Top 5 team against the Gatekeeper of the SECW is Exceeding Expectations, 'We're Comin" and "Participation Trophy Time".
7th place finish in Off in SEC
0 pts vs Ala in last 2 home games with O&E
0-6 vs Saban, Mullen, Fisher
Same 5-3 SEC record as 2015 which was 6th in SEC vs tougher SOS and tougher SEC
Now where is the trend line going vs ALA?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:48 am to SEC Grapevine
Driving so I’ll have to make this quick. Appreciate the work it took you here. But none of that changes the OP, the truth is what it is. I was impressed at how much patience these former Tigers showed me. Lot of great character displayed by them.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:14 am to p&g
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Miami in neutral environment, auburn in the road
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historic wins
Jesus Christ...
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:21 am to BayouBengals18
Historic LSU wins considering its first time starters at QB, runningbacks, and wide receivers. has this ever occurred before under those conditions?
Dalton Hilliard and Garry James under Stoval were first time starters when they beat Alabama and The Bear. That’s the only season I recall that compares.
Dalton Hilliard and Garry James under Stoval were first time starters when they beat Alabama and The Bear. That’s the only season I recall that compares.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:29 am to TrueTigerTale
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has this ever occurred before under those conditions?
Has LSU ever beat two mediocre, unranked teams with first time starters? Yeah.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:35 am to BayouBengals18
You’re referring to SEC East Champ Ga, chump?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:36 am to BayouBengals18
LSU kicked a fg to beat auburn in Jordan hare at the buzzer.
Like it or not, regardless how each teams season ended it was a huge win and will be remembered for years to come in LSU football history.
If you disagree I really don’t know what to tell you other than you’re just not very smart.
Like it or not, regardless how each teams season ended it was a huge win and will be remembered for years to come in LSU football history.
If you disagree I really don’t know what to tell you other than you’re just not very smart.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 11:37 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:47 pm to R11
a 76 page thread. MOST impressive
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:06 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Why can't we all agree that Miles' offense in the last year and a half got boring?*
*Thinks less ppg is more exciting.
E calling plays from Cameron's offense vs terrible defenses is the best showing Orgeron has so far.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:25 pm to Mayhawman
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E calling plays from Cameron's offense vs terrible defenses is the best showing Orgeron has so far.
Ah... the negatiger hyperbole...
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:10 pm to Mayhawman
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E calling plays from Cameron's offense vs terrible defenses is the best showing Orgeron has so far.
I don't recall seeing the halfback pass for a TD in Cameron's offense.
It's not a tough task, proving you're full of shite. Cam's offense though complicated was basically still running plays. The punter Rosenberg, who was going to try out at QB said Cam's offense was "very complicated", calling for different blocking schemes at the line of scrimmage, meant to confuse and overload a certain place along the line. The only people it confused was LSU's offense. That's not what Burrow runs, it's more wide open with him having the option to pass or run, don't take my word for it, ask the Boss (Burrow).
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:52 pm to TrueTigerTale
Well then you were not watching. Cameron used that play just as infrequently as E. But that is a case of "nothing new under the sun, what has been done is what shall be done".
Cameron's NFL Offense was too complicated and it took too long to implement & run plays. It got him fired in Baltimore. He should have never been hired here. He was a terrible QB Coach, out-of-date, and had a temper.
Now LSU's blocking schemes at the LOS are being blamed for QB sacks and pressures. That is the current state of our Offense, FUBAR.
The best Option was the Mastermind Offensive HC/OC as promised by Alleva. In lieu of optimal, if O needs E for trusted confidant, then go out and hire the equivalent of Aranda in a Co/OC/QB Coach like Clemson, Ohio State, ALA, OU, A&M, Tex. and many other top Div I Offenses have on Staff. Fix the Offense and be competitive.
The common denominator of winning the CFPNC is in Scheme: How You Play The Game. If you have O-Line and Pass Protection problems, like everyone at all levels from HS to NFL, you need to change your Scheme, spread things out, develop a short passing - quick release game, and copy what works. It is a Space and Pace Game, Scoring Pts.
Today's modern Offenses use simplified play books and keep the Defense off guard with Pace and Space.
While it may be true that mixing up personnel packages and looks could keep team's defenses off balance, it takes too long to implement, execute, and complexity is the enemy of implementation. Using the same personnel packages and varying space and tempo, with sweeps, RPOs and a simplified scheme based on 1 on 1 matchups makes playing QB easier, turning avg into great, and great into phenomenal. The True FR CFPNC Trevor Lawrence, Jared Goff, Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, for example. We have always had good QBs and bad Offenses.
The Rams run the same personnel grouping '11' on 96% of their plays
How the Rams created the NFL's Most Effective Offense
Goff, Brees, Mahomes: Playing QB is easier than ever
Cameron's NFL Offense was too complicated and it took too long to implement & run plays. It got him fired in Baltimore. He should have never been hired here. He was a terrible QB Coach, out-of-date, and had a temper.
Now LSU's blocking schemes at the LOS are being blamed for QB sacks and pressures. That is the current state of our Offense, FUBAR.
The best Option was the Mastermind Offensive HC/OC as promised by Alleva. In lieu of optimal, if O needs E for trusted confidant, then go out and hire the equivalent of Aranda in a Co/OC/QB Coach like Clemson, Ohio State, ALA, OU, A&M, Tex. and many other top Div I Offenses have on Staff. Fix the Offense and be competitive.
The common denominator of winning the CFPNC is in Scheme: How You Play The Game. If you have O-Line and Pass Protection problems, like everyone at all levels from HS to NFL, you need to change your Scheme, spread things out, develop a short passing - quick release game, and copy what works. It is a Space and Pace Game, Scoring Pts.
Today's modern Offenses use simplified play books and keep the Defense off guard with Pace and Space.
While it may be true that mixing up personnel packages and looks could keep team's defenses off balance, it takes too long to implement, execute, and complexity is the enemy of implementation. Using the same personnel packages and varying space and tempo, with sweeps, RPOs and a simplified scheme based on 1 on 1 matchups makes playing QB easier, turning avg into great, and great into phenomenal. The True FR CFPNC Trevor Lawrence, Jared Goff, Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, for example. We have always had good QBs and bad Offenses.
The Rams run the same personnel grouping '11' on 96% of their plays
How the Rams created the NFL's Most Effective Offense
Goff, Brees, Mahomes: Playing QB is easier than ever
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 3:29 am
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