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re: Former LSU players had high praise for Coach Orgeron and his staff
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:14 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:14 pm to lsufball19
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All you did was provide the same stat.
Expect pages of this stuff
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:15 pm to lsufball19
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I asked why you think it is relevant or persuasive. In other words, what conclusion do you draw from that? More parity this year, what? All you did was provide the same stat. You failed to answer the question you quoted.
You've been arguing against my conclusion for several pages now. The rankings are a poor way to measure a team's schedule.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:15 pm to RB10
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Arguing that a teams record is a poor way to measure them is stupid
I said arguing that the collective record of 14 teams, not one team, is ignorant without context. You still haven't provided any.`
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:15 pm to lsufball19
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I said arguing that the collective record of 14 teams, not one team, is ignorant without context. You still haven't provided any.`
The record of all 14 teams give an overall picture of how strong the conference is. That doesn't really need context.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:16 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Many assumed rightfully or wrongfully that the LSU program had declined under Miles, and it was going to take time to build the program back up to being a top ten team.
Is that why O publicly claimed the 2017 team( a team with the 2nd most nfl draft picks) was going to the playoffs?
O knew it was a rebuild so much that he said we were a playoff team.
Its amazing how much the narrative has changed in just a few years.
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The Rant on Sept. 23rd 2016
Everyone with a brain can see that we have more talent than every team not named bama and we actually match up well with bama. The only thing holding lsu back from winning titles is Les Miles.
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The Rant after Troy and Miss St losses in 2017
Man this program is actually a rebuild. We dont have a any talent.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:18 pm to RB10
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I guess it was "mediocre" in 2018 as well.
Yes, I think it was, however, we played the toughest teams we possibly could have from the East in 2018 and didn't in 2015.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:19 pm to RB10
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Yes, opinion backed by facts (team records). Well done.
How does strength of schedule diminish an undefeated team?
Opinion. Because it's impossible to judge using "facts" when they haven't lost. I mean, they beat the SEC West champs a year prior...
So far we've learned from you that rankings don't matter, but records tell everything, unless you decide the SOS is weak and subjectively remove status. It seems you're changing your criteria as we go
That's not confusing at all.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:19 pm to doubleb
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Very good year=top ten
We had a very good year and did better than most impartial observers and a lot of knowledgeable fans thought.
You realize that the top rated 3 loss team in 2012 was 14th and 2013 it was 11th.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:19 pm to lsufball19
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I said arguing that the collective record of 14 teams, not one team, is ignorant without context. You still haven't provided any.`
It's actually really amusing because you're doing to same thing you whined about me doing a couple of pages back.
You've latched onto one thing (top 25 rankings) and are now claiming that anyone who disagrees with your conclusion that it's the best measure is ignorant.
That high horse you've been sitting on just shat all over itself.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:20 pm to lsufball19
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said arguing that the collective record of 14 teams, not one team, is ignorant without context.
Yep
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:21 pm to lsufball19
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Yes, I think it was, however, we played the toughest teams we possibly could have from the East in 2018 and didn't in 2015.
Losses in 2015
10 win ole miss
8 win arky
Bama
Losses in 2018
10 win uf
9 win a&m
Bama
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So far we've learned from you that rankings don't matter, but records tell everything, unless you decide the SOS is weak and subjectively remove status. It seems you're changing your criteria as we go
Incorrect. What you've actually learned from me is rankings don't measure an entire schedule.
I'll ask again, how do you differentiate between 2-10 Arkansas and 8-5 Auburn using the rankings?
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So it’s a fantasy that 0 is 0-2 vs Mullen or that LSU lost to a completely outmanned ATM team this season? Again using words that have no meaning and arguments not based in reality. I also notice you feel the need to throw in insults everytime you’re proven wrong which is basically a passive aggressive way of lashing out. You have the emotional stability of a 4 year old girl and haven’t produced a single fact so far but when facts are presented to you it makes you angry almost like you’re allergic to them. It speaks a great deal to your opinions and what they’re based on.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:24 pm to lsufball19
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said arguing that the collective record of 14 teams, not one team, is ignorant without context. You still haven't provided any.`
Wanna guess how many 9 win sec teams o has beaten in 2 years?
How many 9 win sec teams we beat in 2015?
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:25 pm to Rickdaddy4188
When they say context what they really mean is they want a door opened so that they can spin the argument off topic. There are facts that provide context but that’s not what they’re driving at because those are against them too.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:25 pm to RB10
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Incorrect. What you've actually learned from me is rankings don't measure an entire schedule
They give you a fairly unbiased view of how well your program is considered and respected at a specific time, taking into consideration SoS, W/L and a few other things.
Seems more comprehensive than some guys opinion trying to rank a dozen 9-3 teams.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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They give you a fairly unbiased view of how well your program is considered and respected at a specific time, taking into consideration SoS, W/L and a few other things.
Seems more comprehensive than some guys opinion trying to rank a dozen 9-3 teams.
"I'll ask again, how do you differentiate between 2-10 Arkansas and 8-5 Auburn using the rankings?"
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:27 pm to Madking
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When they say context what they really mean is they want a door opened so that they can spin the argument off topic. There are facts that provide context but that’s not what they’re driving at because those are against them too.
Of course.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Lmfao that’s the exact opposite of what rankings are
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:28 pm to Madking
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Lmfao that’s the exact opposite of what rankings are
I'm guessing he won't like the opinion that LSU fired the coach that had the program in the top 16 in the country in 2015.
I mean, rankings and all that.
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