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re: Former LSU players had high praise for Coach Orgeron and his staff

Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:34 am to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:34 am to
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Glad I could help you out Ben. You would have never argued this, if I would have told you it was your only way to go.


He chose a really strange hill to die on today. Man, it was a massacre too.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:36 am to
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Right. A W-L record, the nature of the losses and margin of victory over opponents aren't relevant when discussing the greatest teams of all time.

That's brilliant insight



Of course it is but it can't be the be all to end all and you're trying to claim using this information that one team is better than the other and it doesn't work that way.


You can't substantiate the claim that you've made using the facts that you're attempting to use.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:37 am to
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How can one set a goal without knowing the circumstances. Will Burrow or the Oline be able to perform for the entire season without injuries or the Oline? What injuries and losses will LSU have to overcome?



I'm telling you now that there will be injuries and losses to overcome, without question. That's college football. You guys keep waiting for that magical season where we don't have injuries or suspensions. When we don't get it you give a pass to the head coach and say "wait until next year."

Bama sustained nearly as many injuries and suspensions as we did, but it wasn't difficult to project them into the playoffs. If you think we need perfect conditions to compete for a championship then we're not ready to compete for one.

Championship teams don't win because they avoid adversity. They win in spite of adversity.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:46 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:40 am to
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Of course it is but it can't be the be all to end all and you're trying to claim using this information that one team is better than the other and it doesn't work that way.


You've spent the last 4 pages telling me that they aren't facts (they are) and that they aren't even relevant. Now you're saying they are relevant. Make up your mind.

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You can't substantiate the claim that you've made using the facts that you're attempting to use.


Yes I can, and I have. Let's see your facts that prove me wrong.

We will all wait.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:41 am to
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chose a really strange hill to die on today. Man, it was a massacre too


Simply not true. I guess you think that if you say it enough it becomes true. A classic example of a compulsive liar.

You've fallen flat on your face.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:43 am to
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Simply not true. I guess you think that if you say it enough it becomes true. A classic example of a compulsive liar.


Kind of like looking at facts and saying they don't matter?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:43 am to
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Yes I can, and I have. Let's see your facts that prove me wrong.

We will all wait




You've been proven wrong for pages.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:44 am to
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You've been proven wrong for pages.


You've given your opinion with nothing to back it up. I mean literally nothing.

That's not proving anything.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:44 am to
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Kind of like looking at facts and saying they don't matter



If they don't substantiate an argument that pretty much means that they don't matter.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:46 am to
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You've given your opinion with nothing to back it up. I mean literally nothing.

That's not proving anything



Back to trolling again huh.


You are fricking hilarious.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:46 am to
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If they don't substantiate an argument that pretty much means that they don't matter.


They do though. We're still waiting for you to provide anything other than your opinion that shows they don't.

Seriously, anything at all.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:47 am to
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Back to trolling again huh.


Please quit talking about trolling. You've already made it painfully obvious that you don't have a clue what it is.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:47 am to
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RB10



Hilarious




Facts my arse.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:48 am to
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Facts my arse.


Wait, so you're going back to claiming that they aren't facts again?

This is some bipolar craziness.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:51 am to
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Back to trolling again huh.


Please quit talking about trolling. You've already made it painfully obvious that you don't have a clue what it is



So are you denying that you're a shitty fricking troll?

You've argued for pages on end some flimsy bullshite to avoid having to admit that you're wrong and you have the nerve to say that you aren't trolling. fricking hilarious.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:53 am to
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You've argued for pages on end some flimsy bullshite to avoid having to admit that you're wrong and you have the nerve to say that you aren't trolling. fricking hilarious.


I'm not wrong though. I'm literally the only person that's posted facts that back my stance. Your opinion that I'm wrong doesn't change that. Particularly when it's backed by exactly 0 facts or evidence.

So, I'm not trolling and I'm not wrong. Go ahead and prove this statement to be false with actual evidence.

Again, I'll wait.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:54 am to
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Wait, so you're going back to claiming that they aren't facts again


Being factual doesn't mean that they bolster your argument. They don't help your argument. Your just hiding behind them because you don't have anything else. You've lost the argument. You did it a long time ago you just can't bear to admit it. Youd rather troll the board than admit it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:56 am to
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Being factual doesn't mean that they bolster your argument. They don't help your argument.


They 100% back my argument that 2018 Alabama wasn't their greatest team ever. In fact, they back a claim that they weren't even the greatest team in the Saban era.

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Your just hiding behind them because you don't have anything else. You've lost the argument. You did it a long time ago you just can't bear to admit it. Youd rather troll the board than admit it.


Says the guy who can't provide a single shred of evidence that says I'm wrong.

Interesting.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:58 am to
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Says the guy who can't provide a single shred of evidence that says I'm wrong



You never provided a single shred of evidence that you're right. You got called out on it immediately and here you are still crying about it.



Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:00 pm to
“ waiting to move you goalposts”

Before it was beat Bama and win the west or you are underachieving. It didn’t matter who the quarterback was or how the OL performed or if there were any injuries. Just get it done.

Now, we have all kinds of loopholes to the expectations.

How anyone can say with a straight face that the goalposts haven’t been moved is beyond me, but each do our own.
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