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re: For those who called for jefferson...NOT READY YET!!!

Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:09 am to
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:09 am to
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based on six passes. Really?


I have watched him play on TV before in a couple of HS games, plus I have heard from people who have seen him in practice. The 2 games he has thrown in have only further proved that. 1-7.
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Posted by BenGulz
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:09 am to
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based on six passes. Really?



What don't you understand about "He does not know the playbook!!!!"

When he's under center we're limited to about 15 plays!!! you fricking non-football knowing fricks can't see that.. to yall it's just, drop back... throw...

Its not that simple!!!
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
9056 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:10 am to
If any of you think lee will eventually "get it" and become a championship caliber qb your in four a loooong 3 plus years.......

I'm trying to think of another rs freshman in ncaa history who loved to watch the other team score and I just can't
Posted by BenGulz
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:11 am to
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considering the fact that you probably boo'ed the shite out of him and he still came back and played lights out in the 2nd half.
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Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8402 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:11 am to
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and I watched Jefferson in high school. With al due respect, I never thought that highly of him.


OK, that's what I was looking for. At least you have some basis other than 6 passes in this one game. Some of the other comments I've read haven't really said anything substantial one way or the other.

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Lee has shown enough bright spots to show that he will be a good QB as he ages.



I think it is possible, but hardly a certainty. I always thought Jamie Howard had these same qualities and he seemed to regress every year he was here.

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And when Sheppard comes in, he becomes a better "change of pace" QB. He is actually a threat as a runner.


I thought Jefferson was supposed to be a good runner?
Posted by BenGulz
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:12 am to
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I'm trying to think of another rs freshman in ncaa history who loved to watch the other team score and I just can't



Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:13 am to
the majority of the pick 6's thrown are not his fault. obviously, it's his fault if he throws an INT, but really, how much can you blame him?

he made shitty throws of course, but the offense has to be able to fricking tackle once in awhile. I don't see why people don't realize this. it's a young QB, and he's going to make mistakes. the offense has to be able to tackle. a 50 + INT return for a TD on the sidelines in the LSU-Bama game only further highlights this fact.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:13 am to
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I'm trying to think of another rs freshman in ncaa history who loved to watch the other team score and I just can't


yes, I'm sure he "loves" watching the other team score, he probably "loves" having you Boo him even more!
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:14 am to
people dont understand that jj is a throw first qb...hes not even a running style qb he didnt do it in highschool why would the coaches think he can do it now...bad evaluation of talent right there
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290822 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:14 am to
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OK, that's what I was looking for. At least you have some basis other than 6 passes in this one game. Some of the other comments I've read haven't really said anything substantial one way or the other



Yeah, you cant base anything of 7 passes.

And Im not saying he is going to be a bad QB. I just think it will be a Russell/Flynn type of thing. It's not like Flynn was a bad QB, he just couldnt get a shot because JR was the man.


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I think it is possible, but hardly a certainty. I always thought Jamie Howard had these same qualities and he seemed to regress every year he was here.


Lee seems smart. He is a coaches kid, which i like. He's going to work his arse off, and as he ages, he will come into his own. I truly believe that.

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I thought Jefferson was supposed to be a good runner?



He's not a bad runner, but I think he is a better passer than runner.


He's a better runner than Lee. He's not as good of a runner as Sheppard.

He's not Vince Young, either.


I think they are just running him a lot now because they want him to emulate Hatch's role. But as shown tonight, he really isnt anything special running the ball.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8402 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:14 am to
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What don't you understand about "He does not know the playbook!!!!"


Did Les say he does not know the playbook?? Crowton?? Must have missed this somehow.

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you fricking non-football knowing fricks can't see that.. to yall it's just, drop back... throw...


Go frick yourself...it was a legitmate question. Your "he doesn't know the playbook" bullshite can fly on some fantasy board.

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to yall it's just, drop back... throw...

Its not that simple!!!


Thanks for your insight Mr Lombardi.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:14 am to
quote:

I thought Jefferson was supposed to be a good runner?


NO, he is fast, but speed does not a great runner make
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290822 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:15 am to
He can't help that the other team returns his INT's for TD's.


It's purely coincidental, save 1 or 2 of the INT's he's thrown.
Posted by BenGulz
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
3163 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:15 am to
Lester, your trying to reason with these fools?





wish you luck
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:16 am to
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He can't help that the other team returns his INT's for TD's.


It's purely coincidental, save 1 or 2 of the INT's he's thrown.


holy shite, finally.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
9056 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:16 am to
What were sam bradfords numbers as a rs freshman? Just wondering?

Hell, j russel looked better in his rs frosh year
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:18 am to
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What were sam bradfords numbers as a rs freshman? Just wondering?


dude, really? This is the BigXII we're talking about, the "no defense" conference, while we play in the SEC, the conference that is known for badass defenses and mediocre offenses
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:18 am to
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What were sam bradfords numbers as a rs freshman? Just wondering?


Sam Bradford was a freak, and is already being projected as a 1st round draft pick at the end of his RS Soph season.

Not all freshman QBs can do this. Actually, none aside from McCoy and Bradford. And this is in the best defensive conference in the nation, the SEC. It's hard for me to think of the last freshman QB to have real success in the SEC. I have to go back 5 years to Chris Leak, and he wasn't even that great.

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Hell, j russel looked better in his rs frosh year


no he didn't.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:18 am to
oh and what were Colt McCoy's numbers as a Soph?

... oh yeah, he had 18 INT's
Posted by BenGulz
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
3163 posts
Posted on 11/16/08 at 1:19 am to
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Did Les say he does not know the playbook??
actually, he did you fricking know it all!!! anymore questions?
quote:

Go frick yourself...it was a legitmate question
yes, it was, for people who need to be brought "up to speed"
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