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re: For the "we're poorly coached" crowd............

Posted on 9/30/09 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3502 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 1:36 pm to
Dandy Don says LSU has run same basic plays for 3 years now. He thinks the O line is struggling because Def coordinators know what's coming
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 1:38 pm to
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Don't forget chop-blocked.
if our dline is in fact being murdered like that why dont our coaches make a big deal about it? They should be on the sec offices arse every week about this until we see it called.
Posted by The Rev
Frankfort
Member since Aug 2007
169 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 1:43 pm to
Imagine what our record would be if we had another coach like Nutt, Tuberville, Spurrier, Meyers or
Saban. I know some will say we'd be a better team but they didn't always do well with similar or better talent. Miles should be considered one of the best. I think Miles is proven to be one of the best game managers as well. We're 4-0 when many coaches in the SEC would be 1-3 right now.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 1:45 pm to
when has meyer ever been 1-3? we would be crushing people if we had meyer
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130413 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 1:51 pm to
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Imagine what our record would be if we had another coach like Nutt, Tuberville, Spurrier, Meyers or
Saban. I know some will say we'd be a better team but they didn't always do well with similar or better talent. Miles should be considered one of the best. I think Miles is proven to be one of the best game managers as well. We're 4-0 when many coaches in the SEC would be 1-3 right now.



Not buying this at all.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/30/09 at 1:53 pm to
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when has meyer ever been 1-3? we would be crushing people if we had meyer



Meyer shouldn't have lost to Auburn in 06 or Ole Miss in 08. The argument could be made he shouldn't have lost to us in 07 either. He was outcoached in that one IMO.

He also got his shite pushed in against UGA in 07. Again outcoached.

It happens to EVERY coach.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1721 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 2:14 pm to
with the fact that NFL people find that college kids dont get coached on Technique. Im still waiting for Brick to find away to get Woods and Alexander to get off their blocks. So many times i see them wrestle with their Guards or Centers. Only time they get to backfield is when the guard or center blocks down. Maybe The DE's could perform better to squeeze. Alem has done well but Chancey has struggled big time.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 2:15 pm to
Yeah, but the reason '07 Florida wasn't up to snuff was because everyone knew they would struggle on defense. They had to replace nine starters from their '06 squad, and I'm pretty sure 9 of their starting 11 in '07 were either freshmen or sophomores. Meyer has never let them get blown out from '06 on. They were competitive in all of their losses.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53524 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 3:03 pm to
I'm not sure whether LSU is poorly coached or not, but, I know this for CERTAIN :

Georgia is a three point favorite to win the game against the MUCH higher ranked LSU Tigers.

People on the Rant may not think LSU is poorly coached or overrated, but, I guess we can conclude that a LOT of odds-makers think so.
Posted by LSUBlake8
Pville
Member since Aug 2008
343 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 3:53 pm to
I think Miles should let Crowton loose.......

plain and simple....

put the headset down on offense and let Crowton do his thing......

If after two games....we don't perform better...then put the headset back on.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 8:07 pm to
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LOT of odds-makers think so.


so?
Posted by whodemlsu
South of I-10, North of the Gulf
Member since May 2008
531 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 8:15 pm to
Until we can run the ball on 1st and 2nd down when they know we want to run the ball...our options are limited. I refuse to take credit for inventing this wisdom.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 8:26 pm to
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I want this to be a serious thread, so please, if you don't have any real input, don't reply. Thanks.

There has been a lot of talk about LSU being a "poorly coached" team. Contrary to popular belief, just because a team isn't playing well doesn't mean that the coaches aren't doing everything they should be in practice.

So my question is, what exactly do you see on the field that you think the coaches should be spending more time on in practice?

Like most people on here, I think that the play calling has been atrocious, so our approach needs to change. I put most of that on Crowton.

Other than that, I also think that the OL isn't picking up their assignments. I place the blame there on Stud and Miles, and I think they need to be all over them in practice making sure that they know what their responsibilities are on every play. I also think that could have a lot to do with Crowton calling plays that once again his players are not comfortable with.

On D, missed tackles has been the biggest problem IMO and its helped teams sustain drives against us. I guess the coaches could spend more time on tackling and wrapping up drills, but honestly the responsibility there has to fall mainly on the players not doing what they've been taught since pee-wee.

Snaps on special teams are obvious as well. Practice practice practice.

Any other suggestions on specifics that the coaches can work on in practice?
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sounds like you and Bush have it covered Tuger Voodoo
Posted by heehaw
Member since May 2009
4584 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 8:30 pm to
The biggest thing, imo, is that a lot of the time the players dont play with intensity or attitude. A coach, especially in college, needs to motivate his players.
Posted by Monier187
Ville Platte, LA
Member since Sep 2007
401 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 8:33 pm to
Total offense over past 3 years. Here are the rankings:
2007-26
2008-55
2009-105

I'm a huge Crowton fan, but I'm beginning to question whether his play calling is washed up. He doesn't seem to adapt his play calling for what the defense is giving him. For example, Mississippi State stacked 8 in the box for 97% of its plays, Crowton refused to adapt. What could they do in practice? Work on offensive play timing, its been off que for a while.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 8:35 pm to
I'm a huge Crowton fan, but I'm beginning to question whether his play calling is washed up. He doesn't seem to adapt his play calling for what the defense is giving him. For example, Mississippi State stacked 8 in the box for 97% of its plays, Crowton refused to adapt. What could they do in practice? Work on offensive play timing, its been off que for a while.
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who knows, maybe he wants out and f**king up is a good way out ... just saying
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78195 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 9:05 pm to
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I want this to be a serious thread


God dammit.

I scrolled through five pages of horseshite just to see the "I are serious cat" pic, and nobody posted it.

I feel cheated.
Posted by oak
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
334 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 9:16 pm to
My issue is: considering how talented our players are (based on recruiting rankings), if we don't play well who else's fault could it be (but the coaches)? It's not even necessarily that they're bad, but that they're not good enough (see Gus Malazahn's transformation of Auburn's offense, Urban Meyer's incredibly successful offensive system, Saban's dominant defensive system). If our coaches aren't as good as the latter guys, then we won't be competing for titles in the SEC.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 9/30/09 at 9:43 pm to
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I honestly believe that this LSU team simply is not as talented as many think they are. I think whatever flashes they showed in HS simply have not translated to the college game. I mean this mostly about our OL and DL.



How talented was our defense last year? Two on the DL made NFL rosters in addition to SS Taylor.
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