re: For everyone down on this baseball team, TCU is another program

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The overall point is it's flat out moronic to say it's inexcusable to ever have a down season.

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Not a Smoke fan..but he really only had 1 down season

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He had a rapid decline.

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Not really...

He was a lazy fat pos...but he went 18-12 tied for 1st SECW his 2nd to last season ...then had a bad season and was gone. Thank god

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Smoke benefited from the players Skip left him and didn't recruit well at all. We were completely devoid of talent by the time he left.

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Actually Turtle and Smoke recruited too well...too many guys were drafted too high. That was their true downfall

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Signing a class of players everyone knew would never step foot on a college campus is not recruiting well. That's part of the job. Sure, sometimes you get burned, but you can't sign an entire class of top prospects like that and expect to have enough players make it to college to field a competitive team. You can take flyers on a few players but part of your job as a recruiter is recruiting guys that will actually go to college.

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What did I say that disagreed with your long dissertation above?

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What did I say that disagreed with your long dissertation above?

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My long dissertation of 4-5 sentences? You said they recruited too well. That is a not an accurate description of what they did. If none of those players make it to campus, that's not recruiting too well. That's recruiting poorly.

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I said that getting commitments from too many highly ranked recruits was their downfall...not sure what your point is. Their gamble didn’t pay off.

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Actually Turtle and Smoke recruited too well

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USC, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and State all can match our facilities

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close. sure. still can't match the overall state of the program.

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As to resources, what do you mean by that?

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facilities, money, staff, alumni support, etc. no school is even close all things considered

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Florida has probably more resources than anyone in this conference with the amount of talent that comes out of that state

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recruiting/recruits aren't under the umbrella of resources. again, that's an area maybe a handful of schools can match lsu in but not overall

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As to budget, we actually spent half as much money as Tennessee did last year. Our expenses were just over 2 million and Tennessee's were around 4.

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LSU dwarfs most SEC brethren, others nationwide in baseball revenue, profit

lsu still towers over everyone else, even AFTER other schools have made enormous investments to close the gap

so the overall point stands. lsu is the premier program but from 2010-2016 was not getting anywhere near a commensurate roi. mainieri really coached a gem last year and imo established himself as a top 5 coach nationally over the last 10 years which is impressive. imo he needs to continue to be .500 in omaha for the next few seasons to make up for those 7 disappointing seasons and in order for lsu to be getting an appropriate roi

TCU Board.

Do they have numerous national titles? Quit lowering the bar.