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Football depth
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:44 pm
This was an interesting tidbit from the Advocates series about Aranda.
"The Tigers signed just six players from 2010-15 designated as a “defensive tackle” by recruiting services — 12 fewer than Alabama’s 17 D-tackle signees. Four of LSU’s six DTs never started a game in their career. The Tigers produced four defensive line draftees in the past four years — well short of the nine it cranked out in 2010-13."
Aranda added comments on his speaking with Clemson's Venable about their depth on the defensive fronts and Aranda almost envious take on the number of fresh bodies Auburn rotated in on it's defensive front this year.
"The Tigers signed just six players from 2010-15 designated as a “defensive tackle” by recruiting services — 12 fewer than Alabama’s 17 D-tackle signees. Four of LSU’s six DTs never started a game in their career. The Tigers produced four defensive line draftees in the past four years — well short of the nine it cranked out in 2010-13."
Aranda added comments on his speaking with Clemson's Venable about their depth on the defensive fronts and Aranda almost envious take on the number of fresh bodies Auburn rotated in on it's defensive front this year.
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:48 pm to JohnnyU
it's baseball season my dude.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:50 pm to JohnnyU
I believe this is where we will win games that in the past 3-4 years we haven't been able. Our Dline depth, patricularly this past year and the year before has been atrocious. Superstars like Key are great, but they also get tired in the trenches. You must have depth, and the depth we have now is well above average in terms of talent on both sides of the trenches. If games come down to the 4th quarter we WILL win games. Games like Miami, Auburn, Florida as long as we can produce points on offense (the big question) conditioning and depth should do the rest this year.
Some people on the rant don't realize how important this recruiting class was in terms of depth. If we can get QB pressure in Q4 when the other team's Oline is gassed it doesn't matter if we whiffed on PS2. An off-target QB is easy pickings for any DB on an SEC squad.
If Brennan can step up and provide us with a viable passing attack, I really believe we will go 2 for 4 (Miami/Aub/UGA/Bama) and not drop another game.
Some people on the rant don't realize how important this recruiting class was in terms of depth. If we can get QB pressure in Q4 when the other team's Oline is gassed it doesn't matter if we whiffed on PS2. An off-target QB is easy pickings for any DB on an SEC squad.
If Brennan can step up and provide us with a viable passing attack, I really believe we will go 2 for 4 (Miami/Aub/UGA/Bama) and not drop another game.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:52 pm to JohnnyU
That’s an interesting way to spin it.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:20 pm to JohnnyU
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This was an interesting tidbit from the Advocates series about Aranda. "The Tigers signed just six players from 2010-15 designated as a “defensive tackle” by recruiting services — 12 fewer than Alabama’s 17 D-tackle signees. Four of LSU’s six DTs never started a game in their career. The Tigers produced four defensive line draftees in the past four years — well short of the nine it cranked out in 2010-13." Aranda added comments on his speaking with Clemson's Venable about their depth on the defensive fronts and Aranda almost envious take on the number of fresh bodies Auburn rotated in on it's defensive front this year.
That's exactly why we lost to Mississippi State and to Troy because we didn't have any depth. How that was O's fault is beyond me though?
Indeed, no one scores 37 and 24 points on Aranda's defense unless he is suffering from a severe lack of depth. I don't care what kind of stupid allegations people make to blame O.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:27 pm to MOT
what's being spun here, IYO
This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:40 pm to Lester Earl
No matter which way anyone wants to spin including Coach O himself - The bottom line is he has to prove it on the field.
It does not matter if internet people like him or hate him the name of the game is producing wins.
I will root for any thing related to LSU even if I disagree with certain things.
I am LSU first - who the coach is last.
It does not matter if internet people like him or hate him the name of the game is producing wins.
I will root for any thing related to LSU even if I disagree with certain things.
I am LSU first - who the coach is last.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:45 pm to Lester Earl
Seems like an awfully specific time frame since the majority of the years would have no impact on either last season or next season. Is there any specific reason 09 and 16 weren’t included? Any specific reason the term “designated as a defensive tackle by recruiting services” was used?
This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:49 pm to poncho villa
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it's baseball season my dude.
Some people dgaf about baseball dude
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:52 pm to wildcat81tiger86
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No matter which way anyone wants to spin including Coach O himself - The bottom line is he has to prove it on the field.
And you need the players to do it. That appears to have been addressed.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:53 pm to Lester Earl
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what's being spun here, IYO
Facts are considered spin to those not interested in the truth. Dude is dumb as frick
Posted on 2/17/18 at 2:19 pm to JohnnyU
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"The Tigers signed just six players from 2010-15 designated as a “defensive tackle” by recruiting services — 12 fewer than Alabama’s 17 D-tackle signees.
Fuzzy math.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 2:21 pm to The First Cut
Right. Should be 11 fewer but the point remains that we haven't signed near as many in that area.
The sec is essentially a league where the winners have defensive line depth.
The sec is essentially a league where the winners have defensive line depth.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 2:29 pm to MOT
I don’t think dellenger or Aranda have an agenda
Posted on 2/17/18 at 2:53 pm to Powerman
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Facts are considered spin to those not interested in the truth. Dude is dumb as frick
Typical Rantard poster. He's questioning why only certain years are used, not knowing that the article contains a graph that goes all the way back to 2004.
It's an interview with Dave Aranda and the Advocate backs up Dave's comments by posting information about a study they did last fall comparing LSU's D-line recruiting to Bama's.
Other information from the article. The first paragraph actually gives the Lunatic Fringe something to try and spin. At least it will keep them busy and they won't have as much time to call factual information spin.
"Aranda’s wide-ranging interview with The Advocate centered on a defensive front that this program needed to rebuild. In fact, many believe LSU’s defensive front seven — and not quarterback — is the reason for the dip that began after the 2011 season, a downward spiral that led to the firing of former coach Les Miles in 2016."
"Tigers signed most D-linemen in a class since at least 2004"
"beefed up what is overwhelmingly thought to be the one area separating the Southeastern Conference from all other leagues: depth, speed and size on the defensive front."
"We had to address some deficiencies up front just in numbers. I think we did that,” Aranda said. “The ability to reload through the course of a game (with) our front seven, to feel good about who’s there and what they’re doing and to not miss a beat from when you started the game, that cannot be overvalued."
LSU DC Dave Aranda says Tigers' signing class restocked a pivotal area: the defensive front
Posted on 2/17/18 at 3:12 pm to MOT
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Seems like an awfully specific time frame since the majority of the years would have no impact on either last season or next season.
Perhaps teh earlier years in the period do not matter except that they produced pretty mediocre seasons. However 14 and 15 definitely impacted this past season. Any moron could plainly see that we were not exactly super athletic, dominating or deep on the D-line.
The fact is that Miles did a poor job recruiting to needs on both O lines in his former years and we have paid for it.
Regardless this next recruiting cycle will tell the tale for our future. If Orgeron can't capitalize on this elite 2019 Louisiana talent pool, the writing will be on the wall for his tenure. I have my doubts but I will remain hopeful.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 3:14 pm to Tiger Ree
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beefed up what is overwhelmingly thought to be the one area separating the Southeastern Conference from all other leagues: depth, speed and size on the defensive front."
I stated that albeit in less detail in my previous post. It's absolutely true. Without defensive line depth you don't get to the top in this conference.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 4:24 pm to MOT
Some people can't take the truth even when it comes right from the horse's mouth.
“We’ve allowed ourselves, with the signing class, the opportunity to do that," Aranda said, "to be able to rotate guys in and out and have the depth, specifically last year, at times we did not have. I’m excited about that.”
Deny reality all you want, but there it is above, right from Dave Aranda's mouth.
“We’ve allowed ourselves, with the signing class, the opportunity to do that," Aranda said, "to be able to rotate guys in and out and have the depth, specifically last year, at times we did not have. I’m excited about that.”
Deny reality all you want, but there it is above, right from Dave Aranda's mouth.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 4:32 pm to JohnnyU
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If Orgeron can't capitalize on this elite 2019 Louisiana talent pool, the writing will be on the wall for his tenure. I have my doubts but I will remain hopeful.
If O can't do it, no one can. He's been an elite recruiter his entire career. Books have been written about him and he has won numerous recruiting awards. If it doesn't happen, then it isn't meant to be. However, it won't be because he was outworked that's for damn sure.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 4:54 pm to Space Cowboy
Good news is unsettling when you want to watch the whole thing burn to the ground so we can hire some coach that no one is even talking about right now.
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