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re: Florida Rep Proposes bill to pay college athletes
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:55 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:55 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Look at basketball before Will Wade brought in star players.
People most certainly will not spend money on a team that isn’t good.
No. That team wasn't competitive with its peers. If every school dropped the talent level down because the best players went to a developmental league and still had equal talent I agree with that poster. The teams now are far more talented than the teams in the 60, 70s, 80s, yet those teams still played in front of packed stadiums. It's about talent relative to your competitors.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 3:57 pm
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:56 pm to TigerDat
It will also be interesting to see coach's opinions when star players start missing practices to film commercial or fulfill appearances agreed upon in those endorsement contracts.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:57 pm to TigerDat
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Even at the end of Les Miles career here there was endless bitching but the football tickets still sold out, and tv rating still stayed high.
Even at the end of the CLM era we were a top 25 program with star, NFL caliber players.
Do you think LSU was raking it in during the Hallman years? Cuz they most certainly were not.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:58 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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This is where you are wrong. The school itself will not pay the players anything. It’ll be businesses and individuals outside of the school that will pay the players for the use of their likeness and image
Yes that is the idea, but it raises a question, what happens to the jersey sales from the university, the players likeness is on that jersey, so is the school going to have to give the player a share?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:00 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Even at the end of the CLM era we were a top 25 program with star, NFL caliber players.
Do you think LSU was raking it in during the Hallman years? Cuz they most certainly were not
Maybe not LSU but look at the big picture of college football not just your favorite school. College football as a while would still be extremely profitable without the players bames being on the jersey. Or the media circus that puts the players faces on every news outlet.
My point stands. A very minute amount of fans cheer for a single player and watch only because of a specific player, it's about the universities that the love
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:00 pm to TigerDat
That’s easy, the university won’t sell jerseys at all or they’ll only sell number 20 or some other jersey that doesn’t belong to a player.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:01 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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That’s easy, the university won’t sell jerseys at all or they’ll only sell number 20 or some other jersey that doesn’t belong to a player
Ha, yea that's not happening. The university will not stop selling a product that nets them money.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:03 pm to ELchapoLSU
Say the alma mater of some multi-billionaire is a Division II school. Boom, here comes a new Notre Dame situation. Not to mention the players running the coaches. The TV ad with the worried look on the NFL 300 pound lineman in the hot tub, with the position coach screaming at him, doesn't fit the narrative anymore.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:03 pm to TigerDat
I don’t disagree that fans cheer for their beloved university, I just disagree that the players don’t matter in the equation.
I’ll cheer for LSU no matter what but I’m more inclined to spend money on a team that’s gonna be in the championship picture. How do you get in the championship picture? You have good players.
Do you think LSU fills up Vandys stadium if our team was 1-2 going into the game?
I’ll cheer for LSU no matter what but I’m more inclined to spend money on a team that’s gonna be in the championship picture. How do you get in the championship picture? You have good players.
Do you think LSU fills up Vandys stadium if our team was 1-2 going into the game?
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:05 pm to TigerDat
They will if it ceases to net them money (aka they have to give that money to the players).
But you’re right, they’ll just sell billy cannon jerseys instead.
But you’re right, they’ll just sell billy cannon jerseys instead.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:06 pm to TigerDat
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It will also be interesting to see coach's opinions when star players start missing practices to film commercial or fulfill appearances agreed upon in those endorsement contracts.
This will be the real issue. Not the money itself.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:07 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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aka they have to give that money to the players
Then you get into title 9 issues because that is the school paying a player.
This is a whole lot bigger more complex issue than people are realizing
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:09 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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cheer for LSU no matter what but I’m more inclined to spend money on a team that’s gonna be in the championship picture. How do you get in the championship picture? You have good players.
Do you think LSU fills up Vandys stadium if our team was 1-2 going into the game
Again look at the big picture not just your favorite team.
If LSU doesnt have those players someone else will so they will spend the money.
College football is what it is because of the university not the player, it is what it is
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:09 pm to jlovel7
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That team wasn't competitive with its peers. If every school dropped the talent level down because the best players went to a developmental league and still had equal talent I agree with that poster. The teams now are far more talented than the teams in the 60, 70s, 80s, yet those teams still played in front of packed stadiums. It's about talent relative to your competitors
Look at college baseball, if the best players never make it to college then the sport won’t be appealing to the masses.
Sure the SEC is a pocket of passionate baseball fans but across the country, no one cares about college baseball. Why? Cuz the best players are already in the minors.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:09 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I’ll cheer for LSU no matter what but I’m more inclined to spend money on a team that’s gonna be in the championship picture. How do you get in the championship picture? You have good players.
You're forgetting to assume that every school will be in the same boat with LSU. It won't be only lsu playing with inferior players. It will be everyone. How well lsu does will be relative to how its peers perform.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:11 pm to TigerDat
You are arguing against yourself. You said that it was the university that drives fandom not the players. Well if our players were on other teams and those tweaks were now filling up away stadiums instead of us then that’s pretty damn good evidence that it’s the players that drive college football.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:11 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Look at college baseball, if the best players never make it to college then the sport won’t be appealing to the masses.
Sure the SEC is a pocket of passionate baseball fans but across the country, no one cares about college baseball. Why? Cuz the best players are already in the minors.
NBA players have only been prohibited from entering the NBA out of high school for less than 15 years now and still they only need to wait 1 year. Did college basketball only get popular in the last 15 years? College baseball just isn't popular because Baseball (as much as I love it to death) just isn't as popular as basketball and football.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Look at college baseball, if the best players never make it to college then the sport won’t be appealing to the masses.
Sure the SEC is a pocket of passionate baseball fans but across the country, no one cares about college baseball. Why? Cuz the best players are already in the minors
You cannot compare baseball to football. Its 2 different fanbases totally.
Football is the most popular sport in this country.
I would put money that if a farm league were to be promoted and the big time players went there. College football would still be a bigger draw and money maker.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:15 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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You are arguing against yourself. You said that it was the university that drives fandom not the players. Well if our players were on other teams and those tweaks were now filling up away stadiums instead of us then that’s pretty damn good evidence that it’s the players that drive college football
It's still not the players, college football would still be a major draw regardless, whether you are to hard headed to see it or not.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:17 pm to jlovel7
Fair enough, the baseball comparison doesn’t work.
But back to your point of being the best amongst your peers. Even if all the best players went to a farm system, there would still be players on each college team that are the best amongst their peers and would be marketable. These players should be able to make money on their likeness and image.
But back to your point of being the best amongst your peers. Even if all the best players went to a farm system, there would still be players on each college team that are the best amongst their peers and would be marketable. These players should be able to make money on their likeness and image.
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