re: Fisher's team quit on him, Orgeron's team hasn't

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Fans accusing fans of having a secret agenda because of their relentless defending of LSU's coach. Well, I'm greatly offended.

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If you're "greatly offended" take it up with cra cra. He's the dummy who said you had an agenda, not me.

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Saying a team “should” beat Alabama is fallacy.


You were calling people out for making excuses about the Bama game. Now you say this? Which is it? You sure do change your narrative a lot.

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No, I don’t. You just apparently aren’t capable of following even the simplest lines of thought.


You asked if LSU “should” have beaten Alabama last year.

I replied that saying any team “should” beat Alabama is fallacy, as it is setting a team up to fail because Alabama is year in and year out as talented if not more than any team they will face.

That doesn’t mean they are unbeatable, but no team should be expected to beat them going into a game. It is has been an upset every time they have lost for close to a decade now.


That said, you can look at a game in progress and in hindsight and acknowledge wasted opportunities that cost teams a chance at beating them.


So yes, the coaching staff failed to capitalize on opportunity after opportunity throughout that game to do anything to help a defense that pitched a shutout into the fourth quarter.

They couldn’t even force a field position battle to help the defense out, only managing 125 yards throughout the game.

So while LSU shouldn’t have been expected to win going into the game, the staff and players can be held accountable for failing to make plays or calls that cost the team the chance to do so as the game plays out.


Is that clear enough for you, because I can’t believe I took the time type out the way sports works to you

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Not only do you change your narrative a lot but you just totally make shite up. I guess that's why people always said it is so much worse when a person lies. First they have to remember what the lie was and when they can't, they become like Tiger Voodoo

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Once again, you are incapable of following a simple train of thought.

I didn’t say that you specifically shrug off the Alabama loss, although it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if you did.

I said that “you and the CheeriOs” pour praise on O for breaking records last year.

I then used the “royal you”, if you will, meant to indicate the CheeriOs in general, and the sentiment often expressed by them that the Alabama loss was some sort of moral victory for being a close game despite the offensive ineptitude displayed in that game.

I never intended to say you in particular sought to alleviate the coaching staff of their shortcomings in that Alabama loss, as I don’t care enough to remember which posters post specific things. But again, it wouldn’t surprise me if you had, as I absolutely do consider you a CheeriO.


It is worth pointing out the hypocrisy that is prevelant among the CheeriOs, in crediting O for some perceived offensive rejuvenation against poor defensive teams and yet excusing that performance against the one team where a rejuvenized offensive approach was most needed, and yet clearly lacking.


As for your jumbled assertion regarding lying and the liars that tell them, I can only shrug and chalk it up to your misunderstanding of my previous point.

Although it is often the dishonest at heart that automatically assume and project dishonesty in others.

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I have no idea what LSU's offensive output was against Bama

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Of that, I have no doubt

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For the record, I’ve already posted here multiple times I will not hold a loss this year against O or the staff unless it is some 30 point embarrassment.


Yeah right, first off I don't care. Second off, for all I know you are probably just making up another lie.

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Just a couple of examples, from one honest guy to another

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Up to no good again I see Earl!

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What can I say Red, it's a slow sunday evening.

Aub is only a "decent" team? Aub is one badass team that will give Alabama fits, not saying they win, but they will be one tough out.

LSU fans going out of their way to praise a coach that used LSU to get paid big bucks then poor mouths and recruits against LSU, helped by LSU fans poor mouthing LSU's victories, thats fking sad.

Are you sure you don't have an anti LSU agenda, who's paying you?

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Up to this point, Auburn is the only decent team LSU has faced. Coach o, his staff and his team fricked up big time not to be undefeated going into the bama game.

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It's still a 6-2 record and according to you they have only looked decent in one half of one game. Sounds pretty damn good to me. Imagine if they looked decent all the time.

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You sure sound mad.

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Because I said I was glad?

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Are you sure you don't have an anti LSU agenda, who's paying you?

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What the frick are you rambling on about?

You honestly sound dumber than dirt. Once again, I'm NOT the poster that said you have an agenda. I'm NOT the poster that said people were getting paid for pushing an agenda.

frick man, if you're going to throw allegations out there, try throwing them at the posters that actually said these things.

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It's still a 6-2 record and according to you they have only looked decent in one half of one game

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"One half of one game" isn't exactly what I said.

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Imagine if they looked decent all the time.

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Yeah, imagine. Thing is, they haven't. And the blame for that falls on Coach o and his staff.

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Because I said I was glad?

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It was more along the lines of why you were glad.

It’s useless to try and discuss rationally with anyone who argues that O is a better HC than Jimbo.

There is no reasonable standard to hold any HC to that O comes out better than Jimbo.

That said, Jimbo has had a terrible year this year. It’s inexcusable indefensible.

Do conf championships and a national championship buy you a little cred and some rope? I would say it does.

But if he has another year like this one next year? It’s fair to question if Jimbo can get back to championship level. I think he will. But it remains to be seen.

Miami with Richt, Clemson with Dabo and VT with Fuente all look like they are legit. Dabo has won one already. Petrino will have good teams too although I don’t think L’ville is now or will be championship level.

Bottom line is Jimbo will have to be much better than this year and better than when he and FSU won the championship. Fair minded college football fans understand this.

But there is no reasonable measure of success that points to O over Jimbo. None. Honest, intelligent, fair minded fans know this as well.