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re: Explain the negatives of JJ getting 5-6 wildcat/option snaps
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:48 pm to AlexLSU
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:48 pm to AlexLSU
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I'll admit that it would give defenses a different look, but you are overestimating the benefit of this IMO.
What if Bama brings the house every time? Is JJ gonna throw at that point?
If they bring the house and it doesn't work, then don't run it again. No, I wouldn't want Jefferson passing against Bama. I want him passing as little as possible, just like all of y'all.
What if we run it once and Ware goes up the middle for 7 yards? Then what if we run it again and Jefferson keeps it for 5 yards?
The point is that it would be ignorant, in my opinion, to not try it out. If it works, then the defense has another thing to worry about. If it doesn't, then we wasted one play. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think that's going to "kill our offense."
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Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:48 pm to hashtag
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well, Jefferson's had about 4 good quarters starting for two full seasons. Lee has played better than any QB since 2007.
Ok, but there is no reason to act like Lee played lights out last year.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:49 pm to BayouBengals03
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I see your point, but I still think giving Jefferson 2-4 snaps a game couldn't do anything to hurt the team.
I don't think it'll hurt. I think just don't see it as being as beneficial as you think it will. Hey, maybe it will. There's a reason I'm an armchair coach. haha.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:49 pm to junkfunky
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So now JJ is too stupid to fake a hand-off?
Stop trolling, cause it's pretty obvious that I didn't insinuate that.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:50 pm to hashtag
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If this was needed, we would have been running the wildcat with Ware while JJ was out.
We haven't needed it yet. If JJ is there Miles will use him over any of the WRs or RBs because he is more expendable. Besides, if he never sees the field there is a potential that he tries to red-shirt. Wouldn't you rather not have to deal with this next year?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:50 pm to Elleshoe
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We aren't going to beat a team like Alabama running the ball 35 times between the tackles. It'll be good to have a variety of looks to throw at them.
Exactly.
We're going to need something else. Maybe that's Lee playing a great game and leading us to victory with his passing. Maybe that's the defense forcing a lot of turnovers. Maybe, just maybe, Jefferson coming in and giving Alabama a different look could help the team. If it doesn't, then it's not like we're going to continuously run it anyway. But if it does, then that could open up the offense even more.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:51 pm to junkfunky
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Ok, but there is no reason to act like Lee played lights out last year.
when we needed a game winning drive, who did the coaches put on the bench, and who did they put in the game?
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:51 pm to BayouBengals03
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The point is that it would be ignorant, in my opinion, to not try it out. If it works, then the defense has another thing to worry about. If it doesn't, then we wasted one play. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think that's going to "kill our offense."
I can agree with this.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:51 pm to Guster
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Stop trolling
guilty
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cause it's pretty obvious that I didn't insinuate that.
You clearly left off the other option that defenses would have to consider against JJ.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:52 pm to Elleshoe
Ware would be the best wildcat option, not JJ.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:52 pm to Guster
I'm actually all for him getting a few snaps against Kentucky late in the game if we are up big. Run a few change of pace plays...to give Florida something to think about, we don't even have to use him against Florida unless the offense is struggling
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:52 pm to Guster
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I don't think it'll hurt. I think just don't see it as being as beneficial as you think it will. Hey, maybe it will. There's a reason I'm an armchair coach. haha.
That's pretty much what I'm saying. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.
But if it does, then it could actually be pretty beneficial to us.
And I have the confidence in Jefferson to be able to hit a wide open receiver short down field if it is necessary for him to do so. He's a shitty quarterback, but he's still a quarterback.
It just gives the defense another look. At the end of the day, that's the kind of stuff you are looking for on offense.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:53 pm to CantonTiger128
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let's add a bunch of options to an offense that is clicking on all cyclinders...makes logical sense....son...one day you will have wisdom....maybe.
Bama will beat us if we don't pull some stuff out of the secret playbook.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:53 pm to BayouBengals03
I just don't think it'll benefit the team. I said earlier that I wouldn't mind him receiving a few snaps; I just don't think it's going to result in anything spectacular.
If you're suggesting he just hand it off or keep it to keep the D on its heels, why not use Shep or Ware? I think we all can agree that they're both more viable runners.
If you're suggesting he just hand it off or keep it to keep the D on its heels, why not use Shep or Ware? I think we all can agree that they're both more viable runners.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:54 pm to junkfunky
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You clearly left off the other option that defenses would have to consider against JJ.
No, I don't think I left it off. I think I subtly addressed my concern for JJ's throwing abilities.
But I clearly didn't insinuate that I thought JJ was too "stupid" to fake a handoff. Maybe you were just being melodramatic.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:54 pm to junkfunky
How do people already know Bama will beat us if we use our offense the way it has been going? Not everybody, but some seem pretty sure of this.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:58 pm to josh336
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I'm actually all for him getting a few snaps against Kentucky late in the game if we are up big. Run a few change of pace plays...to give Florida something to think about, we don't even have to use him against Florida unless the offense is struggling
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:58 pm to josh336
I think that if I thought JJ would do anything worthwhile with his snaps, I might would be okay with it.
So he is going to fool Alabama and gain five yards a play running the option huh?
Well we can all hope its to the short side too.
So he is going to fool Alabama and gain five yards a play running the option huh?
Well we can all hope its to the short side too.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:58 pm to josh336
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How do people already know Bama will beat us if we use our offense the way it has been going? Not everybody, but some seem pretty sure of this.
Yeah. I mentioned earlier that I don't think we need to use it unless our traditional RZ atts. are failing. But I can agree that it doesn't necessairly hurt to try it.
You could have it work keep a drive alive or it'll not work and kill a drive.
In both scenarios, I expect a Rant meltdown on the topic.
Posted on 9/28/11 at 8:59 pm to AlexLSU
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I just don't think it'll benefit the team. I said earlier that I wouldn't mind him receiving a few snaps; I just don't think it's going to result in anything spectacular.
If you're suggesting he just hand it off or keep it to keep the D on its heels, why not use Shep or Ware? I think we all can agree that they're both more viable runners.
Because Jefferson is a better passing threat. And honestly, he's actually a pretty decent runner.
If the defense sees Jefferson in there, you know in the back of there mind they're thinking "hey, this guy's a quarterback." They wouldn't think that with Shepard or Ware in there.
I think it would benefit the team. But if it didn't, you're not going to kill the offense by trying it out once a game.
People just hate Jefferson too much to want to give it a chance. And honestly, I understand it. People don't like him. They don't want anything to do with him.
But the coaches might think differently. And that's all that really matters. I trust our coaching staff (especially Kragthorpe) to make the right decisions with the offense down the stretch this season.
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