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re: EVERYONE here is rooting for O to be successful, but
Posted on 12/31/17 at 5:59 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/31/17 at 5:59 pm to Lester Earl
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Rick everyone could see his down falls but you, which ultimately led him to be released
every coach has flaws.
at no point did i even have miles as a top 10 coach in cfb. but he earned the right to keep coaching until he had earned the right to be fired. show me these coaches without flaws?
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Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I’m not saying there is a flawless coach, I’m just saying that you were wrong about Miles & was for a while
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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hell you blasted miles for not winning by enough.
Classic Rick twist. I blasted Miles for letting inferior competition hang around....there's a difference.
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with opinions
Uhhh....you can criticize a team/coach's performance with opinions ya know. There is no rule forbidding that as far as I know.
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why are you ok with O losing to vastly inferior teams but not Miles?
Link to where I EVER said this?
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inferioir team every year.
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vastly inferior teams
Splitting hairs here a bit aren't we? Again, you said Saban can lose to an inferior team but its ok........because he's earned that right?
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Hired CO OC'S in 2008 thinking it would help
Sorry I missed this gem. Miles wasn’t replacing a fired ineffective DC so there was nothing to “help”. Rather his National Title winning DC took a job as HC at a major BCS program and since they were busy preparing for a NC wasn’t able to interview as many candidates. IIRC he interviewed 1 guy (from GT maybe) that had some issues and just went in house. And while it wasn’t great the 2008 D was not nearly as bad as this board makes it out to be, especially when you factor in 7 TDs on pick 6s by Lee. And after that 1 year he went out and hired Chavis, who despite broad rewriting of history did a good job here.
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imo he has always been the most football ignorant poster on this site.
He knows history but cannot or will not do any analysis and worse he doesn’t understand analysis.
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an offense with 1 yard of offense in a
win
WAS MORE PRODUCTIVE
than an offense with 600 yards in a loss
Actually he’s right. The point for the TEAM is to win but if the offense only has 1 yard they obviously didn’t do anything to help you win and you won because of luck. You take a team with 1 yard and I’ll take 1 with 600 for 10 games and who you think wins more?
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
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You take a team with 1 yard and I’ll take 1 with 600 for 10 games and who you think wins more?
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You take a team with 1 yard and I’ll take 1 with 600 for 10 games and who you think wins more?
That wasnt the premise though dude...one game.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:11 pm to LanTheBuilder
quote:It's actually the other way around. His supporters don't like LSU as much as they do O. They just want O to do well, so they can say "told you so".
Lies. 80% of the people on this site want him to fail so they can be right.
I hated the hire and have been very critical of O bc of how he's managed some things. However, I want LSU to win, therefore I would love for O to be successful.
It was just a horrible hire for where we were/are as a program, compared to O's HC history and his lack of success. That creates more animosity when he does something that people disagree with because a lot of fans don't think he should have been given the HC job.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:11 pm to Lester Earl
and its fricking laughable that you think you were proven right about miles.
its laughable that you sit on here and say you were right about a coach being a bad coach after that coach had.....
1.the best win % in that programs history
2.has the best ooc win % in program history
3.during his tenure beat more ranked teams than any program
4.was ranked in the top 25 more weeks than any program.
5.had as many top 5 finishes as the next 3 best coaches in program history
6.had as many top 10 finishes in his 11 years as the program's previous 40 years combined.
7.has the most top 5 finishes in program history
8.has the most top 10 finishes in program history
9.has the most top 15 finishes in program history
10.has the most top 20 finishes ij program history
11.has the most top 25 finishes in program history
12.4 of the top 5 scoring offenses in program history are under that
coach
13.has the 7th best win% in the entire conf history
14. has the #1 ooc win % in sec history
a coach accomplishes all that and after 11 years you have the ignorant audacity to say you were proven right?
sure little guy sure.
its laughable that you sit on here and say you were right about a coach being a bad coach after that coach had.....
1.the best win % in that programs history
2.has the best ooc win % in program history
3.during his tenure beat more ranked teams than any program
4.was ranked in the top 25 more weeks than any program.
5.had as many top 5 finishes as the next 3 best coaches in program history
6.had as many top 10 finishes in his 11 years as the program's previous 40 years combined.
7.has the most top 5 finishes in program history
8.has the most top 10 finishes in program history
9.has the most top 15 finishes in program history
10.has the most top 20 finishes ij program history
11.has the most top 25 finishes in program history
12.4 of the top 5 scoring offenses in program history are under that
coach
13.has the 7th best win% in the entire conf history
14. has the #1 ooc win % in sec history
a coach accomplishes all that and after 11 years you have the ignorant audacity to say you were proven right?
sure little guy sure.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:13 pm to RedTigerRulz
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That wasnt the premise though dude...one game.
the premise was peej saying an offense with 1 yard in a win is MORE PRODUCTIVE than an offense with 600 yards in a loss.
its utter ignorance. offensive production and winning/losing are independent.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:16 pm to Lester Earl
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I’m not saying there is a flawless coach, I’m just saying that you were wrong about Miles & was for a while
sigh.....
yeah i was wrong about supporting a coach with the most accomplished tenures in lsu history. the fact that you think you were proven right after miles had one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history is adorable.
if i keep telling people its 6 A.M ill be right soon
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Actually he’s right. The point for the TEAM is to win but if the offense only has 1 yard they obviously didn’t do anything to help you win and you won because of luck. You take a team with 1 yard and I’ll take 1 with 600 for 10 games and who you think wins more?
you can have a more productive offense and lose.
of course youd rather have 1 yard of offense and win but it in no way means the offense wa more productive than the offense with 600 yards
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:22 pm to RedTigerRulz
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That wasnt the premise though dude...one game.
That’s fine but the question as I understood it was a which offense is more effective. That’s not even arguable. Now if you asked me would I rather have 600 yards and lose of course or not but it’s a false premise because you are not winning 99.999999% of the time with 1 (or even 92) yards of offense
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:34 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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yeah i was wrong about supporting a coach with the most accomplished tenures in lsu history.
No you were wrong for supporting him way longer than he deserved.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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its utter ignorance. offensive production and winning/losing are independent
That’s correct but an offense can be productive in a loss and not productive in a win. The point for team is to win
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:38 pm to RedTigerRulz
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No you were wrong for supporting him way longer than he deserved.
when should i have stopped?
was it in 2012 after winning the sec
was it in 2013 after finishing 12# in 2012
was it in 2014 after finishing #14 in 2013
if thats when you wanted me to stop supporting a national title winning lsu coach then why are you supporting ed orgeron?
i stopped supporting him after 2015.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:41 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That’s correct but an offense can be productive in a loss and not productive in a win. The point for team is to win
of course
but if both teams play a team and one offense has 1 yard and another offense has 600 yards, the offense with 600 yards was the more productive offense regardless of the outcome of the game
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:44 pm to jgriffith
We have some great fans and many suck arse wannabe fans
Posted on 12/31/17 at 6:57 pm to TNTigerman
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Not true from my perspective. I believe our defense will be so good next year that we will beat 'Bama, finish 11-1, and win the SEC West.
Would you be willing to risk a car or a pay check over it?
No. I don’t believe you would neither would anyone else on here.
There is a line in the sand. What’s best for the direction of he program and the optics of politics.
The people in the first group are not anti-o. They are anti- Alleva for AT BEST keeping LSU the same as with Miles by hiring Orgeron.
LSU deserved a Top 5 coach not someone that NO OTHER P5 school would hire as a DC much less a HC.
That’s what they are mad about.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 8:35 pm to Tiger1988
quote:I wouldn't make the same bet on Bama winning the SEC next year, either.
Would you be willing to risk a car or a pay check over it?
quote:I'm not anti-O, but I'm not gung ho O, either. I don't like some of the things he's done, but I do like the fact that he knows in order to regain national prominence, we have to get a lot better in the trenches. It looks like he has taken the right steps in accomplishing that so far. You're not gonna win 90% of your games - which is what everyone here wants and expects - unless you can control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
The people in the first group are not anti-o. They are anti- Alleva for AT BEST keeping LSU the same as with Miles by hiring Orgeron.
Only because of a very tough 2018 schedule would a 10-2 regular season record be acceptable.
I am anti-Alleva to the core. The man is a Yankee prick who has no business running our Athletic Department. He couldn't get out of here fast enough to please me.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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was it in 2013 after finishing 12# in 2012
was it in 2014 after finishing #14 in 2013
We could finish around this spot if we beat ND. According to the haters....this would not be good enough. So no, it wasn't good enough for Miles then.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 12:22 am to RedTigerRulz
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We could finish around this spot if we beat ND. According to the haters....this would not be good enough. So no, it wasn't good enough for Miles then.
the problem is you bashed those 3 loss seasons but tout O's 3 loss season
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