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re: Even Mike and Mike is ripping on LSU

Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:08 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:08 am to
i just cannot see how offensive coaches in 2016 can't see that you can't run a dinosaur i-form, 1 TE set without attacking the 2nd level of the D over the middle. it's just pure arrogance or fear, maybe both. the only logical thinking is that they truly believe we will just be able to line up and absolutely maul everyone up front to run run run

and there is literally no plan B
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:09 am to
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thought we had turned the corner after the Texas Tech game but we are still on the same stupid road with the same insane driver at the wheel



127th ranked defense. 127/128.

THAT was the turning point? Not a chance.



I honestly think if Texas Tech had fielded the starting defense for whoever the 5A HS state champ team instead LSU would have put up similar numbers. That D was on par with a HS.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14967 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:10 am to
24/50 plays in the I-Formation.

Stick a fork in Miles.

He either can't or is unwilling to help himself or our program.

It's gross mismanagement and outright insubordination. Whether you're a cashier at Dollar General or a C-Level Executive, we are all accountable to someone professionally. Supervisors, administrators, shareholders, or the markets themselves.

Miles is not responding to or acting as if he has accountability. For whatever reason. But for the good of the program-which is bigger than Miles will ever be and existed for over a century before him and will exist for a century after him-we should relieve him of his position.

The program deserves it.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:10 am to
There is no plan B. I think it's pretty obvious Miles will never change.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:11 am to
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i just cannot see how offensive coaches in 2016 can't see that you can't run a dinosaur i-form, 1 TE set without attacking the 2nd level of the D over the middle. it's just pure arrogance or fear, maybe both. the only logical thinking is that they truly believe we will just be able to line up and absolutely maul everyone up front to run run run

and there is literally no plan B


Its basically saying to the opponent : "our strength is running between the tackles...but don't worry LBs -pin your ears back because it's coming 75% of the time and you'll NEVER EVER have to account for any passes between the hashes or cover any one."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:13 am to
if our base offense is an i-form, 1 TE, 2 WR set, then our plan B options are limited

it's just a formation that does not allow much variation b/c you limit yourself so much with that FB

now if it's ROLLING, it can be a tough offense to stop for sure, but we create a structurally deficient offensive system for that base formation that just limits the ability to do that other than the "we're just going to maul these guys up front" philosophy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:16 am to
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Its basically saying to the opponent : "our strength is running between the tackles...but don't worry LBs -pin your ears back because it's coming 75% of the time and you'll NEVER EVER have to account for any passes between the hashes or cover any one."


yeah and those sideline passes aren't usually even deep

if they are deep it's a super-long developing play and if the defense is crashing they have the ability to turn the run-pressure into pass-pressure on the fly gives the D a shot in those instances. it's a gamble the D is willing to take, esp since it's going to be a long throw and more difficult just b/c of that
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:17 am to
And that is what Miles is thinking most of the time. That he can just line up and maul people even Alabama. It's just crazy to think that way. That's why I've lost interest in LSU football despite all the wonderful athletes they keep bringing in. I didn't even watch Saturday's game.
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:18 am to
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if our base offense is an i-form, 1 TE, 2 WR set, then our plan B options are limited


Even if he was stubborn enough to stick with this formation if they at least focred the D to account for the middle of the field it would make their lives more difficult an open it up a little. The D literally can ignore 60% of the field because there is ZERO threat that LSU will try to exploit it."

It's like if a basketball team was ONLY capable of dunking in transition and ONLY shooting low pct three pointers from the corners. And that's it.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17069 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:19 am to
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These assholes called us crazy for wanting to fire miles last year. Now they see the light? frick them all.




all of this...part of the reason Miles is still here is because of all the pundits in the media backing his arse up.

lsu fans have been dealing with this shite every year since the 2012 season. we're fricking tired of it
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25321 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:21 am to
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and there is literally no plan B


We have a plan B. Listen to how Cam Cameron describes his plan Bs against Alabama.

LINK
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6067 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:22 am to
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now if it's ROLLING, it can be a tough offense to stop for sure


He can't even get his team to do that... it would be one thing if they could run it crisp and clean, but they can't. They are sloppy, undisciplined, and poorly coached.

He doesn't care anymore or has developed senility, because he is out of touch and clueless. His half time and post-game interviews proved that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:22 am to
Posted by therick711
South
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25321 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:24 am to
Seriously. That's how we construct a fricking game plan.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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424762 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:24 am to
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He doesn't care anymore or has developed senility, because he is out of touch and clueless

no

he's stubborn

and arrogant

he knows if he keeps winning 9-10 games he's basically safe so that's his baseline

he will not risk another 2008 by changing things up b/c then he runs the risk of getting real heat
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:26 am to
i like how we have A1 and A2 but no real B

it's just mind-boggling in modern football to think these coaches think that way. they really seem to believe that they have their system and that's it. if it works (and it will 75% of the time without issue) then that's great. if it doesn't work, well the other team deserved it
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:27 am to
That was supposedly first round pick Pocic that got rolled like that all the way up into Harris. lol
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:29 am to
Goood, hope that are trashed nationally for the shite show administration has allowed to fester.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6067 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:31 am to
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he knows if he keeps winning 9-10 games he's basically safe so that's his baseline


Well, that shite ain't happening this year. That incompetent frick better try something different or they won't have that shite excuse to keep his useless arse anymore.
Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2438 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:37 am to
TT was the worse defense and would have made any pethetic offense look good. I certainly would not have thought we improved over night because of TT.
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