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re: Etling is not a "Pro-Style QB" IMO

Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:40 am to
Posted by pellietigersaint
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:40 am to
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people think Harris is "duel threat" based on absolutely no other evidence other than he is black

Etling is more mobile than Harris



blame suck arse recruiting services who are sheep who follow each others narratives. And then small minded fans carry the torch
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:41 am to
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Your telling me that JR isn't a Mett style QB when the numbers so they are pretty much identical STYLE QBs



I'm telling you that JR was not a complete statue like Mett.

and your numbers actually prove that
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:41 am to
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Your telling me that JR isn't a Mett style QB when the numbers so they are pretty much identical STYLE QBs
Numbers show that Russell runs better than Mett, which is what y'all are arguing about. Not really sure why you can't see that
Posted by sandraccoon
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:42 am to
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and your numbers actually prove that


You must be a complete moron because the numbers match thus voiding your dumb case
Posted by Krypto
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:42 am to
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people think Harris is "duel threat" based on absolutely no other evidence other than he is black

Etling is more mobile than Harris


No, people think this because Harris would rather take off running than read through his progressions. He certainly runs a lot better than he passes. That said, he was recruited as a pro style QB because at the high school level he was a beast at throwing the ball.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:43 am to
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You must be a complete moron because the numbers match thus voiding your dumb case


You may want to look at your numbers again.
Posted by Rougarou13
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:44 am to
Mett was stationary only because he couldn't outrun Christmas. Pro style doesn't mean you can't run.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:44 am to
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You must be a complete moron because the numbers match thus voiding your dumb case


my goodness
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:45 am to
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No, people think this because Harris would rather take off running than read through his progressions.


uh no

Harris would rather force a pass than run

Harris rarely takes off and runs
Posted by teampick
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:46 am to
Etling seems to do a good job sliding in the pocket or stepping up when he feels pressure. He creates passing lanes with his movement and allows a little extra time for receivers to get separation. He can throw on the run, but you don't have to put him on the run to make a throw. He seems equally comfortable under center as he does in the shotgun. He also has enough velocity and accuracy to throw and complete a 15 yard out from the pocket. I think that makes him a very capable qb for LSU's system.
Posted by sandraccoon
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:47 am to
They were both in the negative for one year and Jamarcus has 142 rushing yards total for the next year. I don't see how 142 rushing yards for an entire season excludes the guy from being a fricking statue lol.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:49 am to
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I don't see how 142 rushing yards for an entire season excludes the guy from being a fricking statue lol.


the fact that he had positive yardage proves that he wasn't a complete statue

sacks count against QBs rushing totals

so considering he was able to 1) avoid sacks 2) make up yardage from sacks proves that he was not a complete statue like Mett

this shouldn't be hard to understand
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 8:50 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:50 am to
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I don't see how 142 rushing yards for an entire season excludes the guy from being a fricking statue lol.


You're talking about almost 300 rushing yards difference between the two. That is a huge difference for QBs. I'd normally say something along the lines of "you can't possibly be this stupid," but I think you are.
Posted by 5Alive
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:52 am to
Now you are stretching it.
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:53 am to
That yardage includes sacks for QBs. Looking strictly at their gains, which doesn't include sacks:
Mett gained 35 yards in 2013 and 44 in 2012
Russell gained 282 in 2006 and 215 in 2005.

Pretty significant differences. Hell, if you actually watched both of them play, it's pretty easy to see the difference
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:00 am to
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He is pretty nimble but I think his reads in the passing game are more important.



This.

He is not super fast or agile, but he has enough athletic ability to get out of trouble and seem to just know exactly when to use it.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 9:01 am
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:01 am to
The ability to go through progressions and operate from under center are two marks of a pro-style QB, and he has them both. Plenty of pro style guys are mobile.
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:17 am to
I always took pro-style to mean running was always a third or fourth option if no one was open and they work more from under center.

Also Jamarcus could move in the pocket and shake defenders off because of his size but he was pretty much a statue. I remember him getting some decent runs when the field was wide open and he would slowly lumber forward until someone tripped him up.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Hugo Stiglitz
Is Aaron Rodgers pro style?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:20 am to
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I did and do. JaMarcus was not a complete statue like Mett. He wasn't "duel threat" either, but he wasn't a statue.
JaMarcus was Big Ben like. Could extend the pocket and avoid sacks like a mad man with quicker feet than defenses expected for a big man
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