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re: Etling 8-18, 2 INTs/Brennan 4-8, TD

Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:39 pm to
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Hey people, Etling is starting, if you think these stats are bad, try putting a freshman in this complex offense, which he doesn't know, against a senior laden team, in his first game on national TV in front of a stadium 30 times bigger then Myles has ever seen. U The second we lost horribly you would all soon turn on coach O, saying this was the dumbest move he's ever made. Season would literally be on the line after the first game. Etling has been through the tough road games, and I saw him, he's not a bad QB. Etling is starting and LSU will be a very good team with him, get over it.


ok, this is real. some of the yoohoo's on here will NEVER get it. they don't know jack shite and don't know they don't know jack shite. it probably is just not possible to get through to them.
Posted by safetyman
Member since Jun 2011
11378 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:42 pm to
That's what they claiming. No one knows the truth. DE will be fine. Brennan will take over soon as our starting QB.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:43 pm to
It's ok for me to see the OL struggling rightnow bc they aren't all together but they better make strides in the coming weeks. This DL is nasty but they need to step up, even if it's the backups. Shits going to get real very soon so, make the mistakes now to work on it this week coming. Next week we need to see some improvement, then every week after that.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
3894 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 5:55 pm to
Lol it feels like Summer 2016 all over again when the rant used every excuse under the sun for Brandon Harris. Then the Wisconsin game came...
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 7:18 pm
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7846 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:04 pm to
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I'm just speculating here but what if coach O told Etling to test the DBs? Or he told him to throw jump balls in the endzone? The DBs won the match up? Maybe he wanted to see how they both stacked up? I mean no one really knows the situations. I know this though there wasn't (1) game last year where I saw Etling throw 2 INTs, NOT ONE!

Just Stop because y'all really sound ignorant.

This is all just as likely as Brennen looking better than Etling. Lol


Just when I thought excuses couldn't get any better you go and lay the gem.

The oline terrible isn't? A bad QB can also make an Oline look worse by holding the ball too long, having two left feet when he runs, and not knowing when to bail and leave the pocket. DE usually does one of those. The same Olines paved the way for 2 different backs to set LSU records last year. RB's also had a great day in the last scrimmage, yet DE struggled again.

Take the DE glasses off and put the P&G glasses back on. It's about who gives us the best chance to win, not the guy you like better because he took a hit and seems like a great guy. That doesn't win games at the end of the day.

If he came out on top of a fair competition would be one thing, but the fact that it's all DE with the ones and everybody else gets 1 or 2 passing with the 2's is not a fair competition at any school. And oh yeah, a freshman QB won the SEC POY award last year. Not the first time.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14476 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:05 pm to
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Ok. Forget the 2 ints

8-18 is horrific these days

Jalen Hurts was 10/19 for 107 and 1 INT, no TDS against our D.

Heisman trophy winner Jackson was 10/27 (37%) against our D

Austin Allen (supposed to be a real good QB) 15/31 1 TD and 2 INTs

Chad Kelley 20/33, 1 TD and 2 INTs

Drew Lock 17/37 0 TD and 1 INT

Austin Appleby 7/17 1 TD, 144 yds (only 46 yards minus the 98 yd TD pass)

Apparently our D is pretty good. The A&M game was more of fluke (3 TDs), but the Aggies still completed less than 45% of their passes.
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7846 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:13 pm to
Ok now do the same with DE's stats against other good defenses. It's shame that there so many excuses for a pretty mediocre QB. Matter of fact, pull up DE's stats dating back to high school if you wants kicks and giggles.

Let me know if you need them. I have them. They haven't changed much at all.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:18 pm to
I suspect it happened during the two-minute drill. Coach O says the offense was not ready at all for that part of the scrimmage, while the defense was more than ready.

In addition, for all those ranters overly excited by Brennen's stats, with the exception of just two plays, Brennen's stats come against the second team defense. As he received the bulk of the reps with the second string, with each of the other backups getting about 2 to 3 plays each. Not a lot of practice and reps at all.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38249 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:18 pm to
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LuzianaFootball


frick off
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95948 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:19 pm to
I have not bashed Etling

I am simply saying 8-18 with 2 ints is horrific. Danny would tell you the same. There is no reason for us to try and dance around the issue


We can only hope it was a bad day
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:19 pm to
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In addition, for all those ranters overly excited by Brennen's stats, with the exception of just two plays, Brennen's stats come against the second team defens


with the 2nd team offense
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:21 pm to
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No, Coach O said that Brennan took snaps with the starters. Wish y'all would stop saying that.


No that's not what Coach O said. He said, Brennan took two snaps with the number ones, but his stats come against the number two defense.

Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9741 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:24 pm to
For what it's worth Rohan Davey was on AFR and he claimed that after what he saw at practices he would start McMillan or Brennan if the decison was his.

I know that's just his opinion but he was a hell of a college QB and played behind Tom Brady for a few years in the NFL.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:24 pm to
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But O mentioned our OL pass blocking was atrocious the whole scrimmage which will lead to making mistakes even in a scrimmage situation.


I watched coach O's post game press conference and I didn't hear anything but praise for the offensive line. So I don't know where you are getting your information from.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14476 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:29 pm to
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Ok now do the same with DE's stats against other good defenses.

Starting with his first SEC game on Etling had a QBR rating less than 123 in 2/10 games (Auburn and Bama). In the Auburn game he was 15/27 (56%) with 1 TD and 0 INTs and was 1/10th of a second (and booth review) from a game winning TD after driving the team for the winning score.

I'm not making Etling out to be more than what he is, but don't try to make him less.

Edit: Also, in his 11 games started last season he threw 2 or more INTs exactly 0 times. So what does that tell us about scrimmage stats?
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 7:12 pm
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:37 pm to
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We are fcked if O sticks with DE only because he's a senior. He doesn't seem to be improving since ever. There's always a pile of excuses for him. It's always the OL and/or the D is one of the best. At some point you have to improve and show something.


Overall the offense dominated the defense, so I don't know where you are getting that no improvement nonsense from. Now when the offense practiced the two-minute drill, that's when the offense got its butts kicked by the defense, as coach O said the offense was not ready at all while the defense was more than ready. I assume that's when the interceptions and most of the incompletions occurred, as the offense had not worked on that aspect of the game yet during fall camp.

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He is the same that he's always been. It would be nice to know the other guys are getting a fair shake and the same amount of coaching being put into DE. For O's job sake, I hope this changes.


Relax everybody says Danny Etling is much improved from last year since his surgery. Anyway, Etling got all the reps with the number ones with the exception of only two snaps, which went to Myles Brennan.

Nonetheless, Brennan's stats come with the number twos, as he got the bulk of the snaps with the number twos during the scrimmage. The rest of the quarterbacks got two to three snaps each.
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:44 pm to
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Jalen Hurts was 10/19 for 107 and 1 INT, no TDS against our D.

Heisman trophy winner Jackson was 10/27 (37%) against our D

Austin Allen (supposed to be a real good QB) 15/31 1 TD and 2 INTs

Chad Kelley 20/33, 1 TD and 2 INTs

Drew Lock 17/37 0 TD and 1 INT

Austin Appleby 7/17 1 TD, 144 yds (only 46 yards minus the 98 yd TD pass)

Apparently our D is pretty good. The A&M game was more of fluke (3 TDs), but the Aggies still completed less than 45% of their passes.



please , please , please stop trying to bring facts into the discussion!!!
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47154 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:46 pm to
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Why? To pad the stats for no real purpose? Iron sharpens iron.



To shut the rant up.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22180 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:59 pm to
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quote:
Ok. Forget the 2 ints

8-18 is horrific these days

Jalen Hurts was 10/19 for 107 and 1 INT, no TDS against our D.

Heisman trophy winner Jackson was 10/27 (37%) against our D

Austin Allen (supposed to be a real good QB) 15/31 1 TD and 2 INTs

Chad Kelley 20/33, 1 TD and 2 INTs

Drew Lock 17/37 0 TD and 1 INT

Austin Appleby 7/17 1 TD, 144 yds (only 46 yards minus the 98 yd TD pass)

Apparently our D is pretty good. The A&M game was more of fluke (3 TDs), but the Aggies still completed less than 45% of their passes.
.




How dare you come in here with facts and common sense.... #triggered
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 7:30 pm to
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Brennan may have had one series with the starters. Maybe.


Not even that. He had two snaps with the ones and all of his stats come with the number twos.

However, by far he got most of the snaps with the twos, as the rest of the other quarterbacks got only about two to three snaps each. Nonetheless, what I'm hearing is the reason Brennan got most of the snaps is that they are trying to get him caught up on the offense with the other quarterbacks.
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