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Either of two things has to happen for LSU to manage this,
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:47 pm
(1) Come out very soon and boldly state that Miles is gone and that "LSU remains steadfast in its' desire for excellence and will not accept mediocrity...the players, fans, alumni and the school deserve this. To accept anything less in not LSU".
or, (2) Come out right now with a major press conference with Miles, all the appropriate heads and TAF people (announce it to the networks without telling them what's about to happen and get them to cover it becuase you know they'll jump at the chance) and state forcefully that this season did not meet the expectations of LSU and what it stands for, excellence; and that beginning right now no expense will be spared, no effort will be overlooked to return LSU to the prominent place it rightly deserves and in doing so we stand behind Les Miles.
In essence turn a very bad situation into an opporunity to cast the national spotlight on what we are about (excellence) and serve notice to the rest of the sports world that we will not retreat in the face of adversity and that we will honor our commitments and we will be successful. Recruits will watch and this will be an early pre-emptive strike against other programs. Hopefully, this will be damage control with some/most of them (recruits).
Then, we have to open the checkbook and get the best damned coordinators that money will buy and make a major splash with their hires. If we choose this route, then we have to expect to spend freely and wisely. Bigtime college football is an arms race.
We're only going to get one shot to do this right....game's on the line and it's time to step up....we really have no other options.
or, (2) Come out right now with a major press conference with Miles, all the appropriate heads and TAF people (announce it to the networks without telling them what's about to happen and get them to cover it becuase you know they'll jump at the chance) and state forcefully that this season did not meet the expectations of LSU and what it stands for, excellence; and that beginning right now no expense will be spared, no effort will be overlooked to return LSU to the prominent place it rightly deserves and in doing so we stand behind Les Miles.
In essence turn a very bad situation into an opporunity to cast the national spotlight on what we are about (excellence) and serve notice to the rest of the sports world that we will not retreat in the face of adversity and that we will honor our commitments and we will be successful. Recruits will watch and this will be an early pre-emptive strike against other programs. Hopefully, this will be damage control with some/most of them (recruits).
Then, we have to open the checkbook and get the best damned coordinators that money will buy and make a major splash with their hires. If we choose this route, then we have to expect to spend freely and wisely. Bigtime college football is an arms race.
We're only going to get one shot to do this right....game's on the line and it's time to step up....we really have no other options.
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Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:49 pm to Tigerguyinexile
I think LSU would be best served by using one of your scenarios.
Either fire Les or publicly back him.
Either fire Les or publicly back him.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:50 pm to Tigerguyinexile
He's through.
All eyes on Aleva.
All eyes on Aleva.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:50 pm to Tigerguyinexile
We would be wise to enlist an excellent PR firm right now to spin this.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:51 pm to Tigerguyinexile
So...your choices are:
1) fire Miles now
or
2) fire Miles in the very near future
Do you mean like honoring a contract to a current coach?
What if the recruits like the current coaches, you know, the ones who actually recruited them?
Get the frick over yourself. Miles will not be fired this year.
1) fire Miles now
or
2) fire Miles in the very near future
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that we will honor our commitments
Do you mean like honoring a contract to a current coach?
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Recruits will watch and this will be an early pre-emptive strike against other programs
What if the recruits like the current coaches, you know, the ones who actually recruited them?
Get the frick over yourself. Miles will not be fired this year.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:54 pm to DanglingFury
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2) fire Miles in the very near future
Not even close to what he said.
quote:
Get the frick over yourself. Miles will not be fired this year.
Get over yourself. You have no clue what will happen yet you repeatedly act as if your opinion is fact. It's not. In fact, your opinions are logically flawed in just about every post I read. They are far from fact.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:55 pm to DanglingFury
If LSU gives Miles public support and restates our efforts to regain excellence and hires the best coordinators possible and makes the right hires in doing so then I think it could work. It would be expensive but so is failing.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:57 pm to DanglingFury
quote:
quote: that we will honor our commitments
Do you mean like honoring a contract to a current coach?
i think he was referring to LSU's commitment to athletic excellence ?
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:57 pm to drizztiger
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You have no clue what will happen yet you repeatedly act as if your opinion is fact.
yeah Drizz, because you know exactly what's going on? You're the same as me, except with the exact opposite opinion. I'm getting tired of going in these circular arguments with you. You're like SFP Jr. If you're so sure that Miles is fired this year, wanna put some action on it?
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:58 pm to cmaj415
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i think he was referring to LSU's commitment to athletic excellence ?
No shite noob. Thanks.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 7:58 pm to DanglingFury
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What if the recruits like the current coaches, you know, the ones who actually recruited them?
Well, considering there is a real high possibility of some assistant coaching changes, how do you propose to handle that? What if Porter goes to Memphis?
Please engage your brain before putting your fingers in motion.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:00 pm to BTigerFan
That's the problem with losses, especially bad ones, the noobs pour out of everywhere.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:02 pm to Tigerguyinexile
or
3) Prepare a damn strong football team to play Arkansas on Saturday.
(Has anyone else noticed that Miles is now able to pronounce Arkansas?)
Progress........baby steps...
3) Prepare a damn strong football team to play Arkansas on Saturday.
(Has anyone else noticed that Miles is now able to pronounce Arkansas?)
Progress........baby steps...
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:04 pm to DanglingFury
quote:
yeah Drizz, because you know exactly what's going on? You're the same as me, except with the exact opposite opinion. I'm getting tired of going in these circular arguments with you. You're like SFP Jr. If you're so sure that Miles is fired this year, wanna put some action on it?
No, I haven't acted as though my opinion is fact. That's all on you.
You didn't even read what he said, you just typed your normal regurgitation.
He said basically fire Miles or show a public university backing for Les Miles. You take that as fire Miles today or soon. Why even reply if you don't take the time to analyze what he says?
And do I want to put money on Miles getting fired? I'll take 50 to 1, because I do believe those are the odds. I have said numerous times it's unlikely, but is a possibility. There is where your repetition gets tiring. You state your opinion that Miles will not be fired as an absolute truth. You eliminate any possibility of being incorrect, when in fact, you could be incorrect because you do not know.
But I guess that's too hard to understand. That you have an opinion and you believe it, but you don't really make that decision, so you can't be 100% sure and express that you may not know. It's kind of sad.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:04 pm to Tigerguyinexile
I agree. Since #2 is the only real possibility, I also think he should immediately afterward throw Gary Crowton under the bus, fire him, blame him for the poor offensive performance this year, blame him for the melt down vs Ole Miss. Fair or not (I thinks its fair) Crowton will not be here anyway next year, and it will look like a proactive, decisive measure taken to improve the situation. Maybe we can save face with potential recruits and with the image of our program.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:06 pm to Tigerguyinexile
quote:
It would be expensive but so is failing.
might be too far gone...
It will be hard to find an OC who will want to take the risk if he has further aspirations, but who knows.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:06 pm to TX Tiger
This will probably be a poor analogy, but remember how jacked everyone got with Miles' short press conference in 2007? This would be that...on steroids. We would need some serious PR help to position it but I think it could be done.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:06 pm to DA
as previous stated and to some maybe :beatdeadhorse: it is a matter of economics. No one ever said how many are TAF members and if there are 5,000 in that group it would cost them $3000 each for a pay-out to L.M. These people want to be special, then step up to the plate with "Your Rank and Loyalty to the rest of the LSU Nation." Otherwise, if you want to wimp and cry, LSU has a huge Alumni following around the country and other places in the world> Some big following areas are Houston, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Atlanta, man places in Florida, Mississppi, Phoenix, Dallas, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Denver, etc. and 50,000 loyal LSU supporters would only have to pay $300 each. Don't embarras yourselves, don't believe that UF or AL along with TN, AUB and maybe some other members of the conference wouldn't do this.
Also, we can hire a much better coach with a sliding Pay Scale starting not at what L.M. is paid and pay his coaching staff well. Now there must be clauses that benefit LSU as well as the coaches and we all can be happy. Now, go hide this administration. You've been doing it for two days now?
If I was T-Bone Pickens, I'd do it on my own. Heck if I had $30 Million in the bank, I'd do it. 
Now call me what you want... 
Also, we can hire a much better coach with a sliding Pay Scale starting not at what L.M. is paid and pay his coaching staff well. Now there must be clauses that benefit LSU as well as the coaches and we all can be happy. Now, go hide this administration. You've been doing it for two days now?
If I was T-Bone Pickens, I'd do it on my own. Heck if I had $30 Million in the bank, I'd do it. Now call me what you want... 
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:10 pm to Tigerguyinexile
quote:Brilliant! I hope somebody in the Athletic Dept. and at the top at LSU is looking. I strongly resonate to either of the two options, and in fact might just want to see #2 be the direction LSU brass and TAF would take. Miles is a bonehead, but he's our bonehead. And maybe he can be salvaged, along with LSU football. That would be a true win/win.
1) Come out very soon and boldly state that Miles is gone and that "LSU remains steadfast in its' desire for excellence and will not accept mediocrity...the players, fans, alumni and the school deserve this. To accept anything less in not LSU".
or, (2) Come out right now with a major press conference with Miles, all the appropriate heads and TAF people (announce it to the networks without telling them what's about to happen and get them to cover it becuase you know they'll jump at the chance) and state forcefully that this season did not meet the expectations of LSU and what it stands for, excellence; and that beginning right now no expense will be spared, no effort will be overlooked to return LSU to the prominent place it rightly deserves and in doing so we stand behind Les Miles.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 8:10 pm to Tigerguyinexile
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efforts to regain excellence and hires the best coordinators possible and makes the right hires
He's had two chances to do that. His hire failed after BP left. Trust me, Chavis isn't the answer, either. I've watched him over the last 15 years. He's average. You'll learn that if we ever get our offense back.
Now the offense stinks to high heaven.
Aleva, do what you know has to be done.
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