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re: Ed Orgeron meddles with the offense?

Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:43 pm to
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No, I'm hoping that Orgeron has learned that he doesn't know the offensive of the ball that well and is going to let Ensminger and Brady do what they do.


I think he will. I didn't see anything last year to suggest Orgeron stepping on Ensminger
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:52 pm to
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Ok... are you a HC?????



Yes.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:57 pm to
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Ensminger said they were going to the RPO in January of 2018. That's all it seems like they would have been practicing all off season and even as soon as Burrow got here. I forgot what day he got here, but he committed on May 18th.



Reps and learning the terminology is very important. Yeh JB May have had the playbook in late May but he only got fall practice to learn the offense
Posted by PP7WasInbounds
Member since Aug 2019
132 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:00 pm to
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So why does everyone compare what O has done to Miles


It’s the nature of the beast.

Between 2005-2015 you couldn’t get 6 words in a conversation about Miles without someone mentioning Saban.

LSU is in an enviable position to have not suffered any major drop offs in the past 15 years despite 2 coaching changes.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93726 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:01 pm to
Burrow says the RPO offense is the offense he's been running since he was 13 or something like that. If they were planning on running the RPO offense before he got here, why would it change after he got here? That makes no sense to me at all.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261251 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:07 pm to
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they were planning on running the RPO offense before he got here, why would it change after he got here?


We ran some degree of RPOs most of the year.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:17 pm to
We saw some RPO.

Two teams may run the exact same offense but use completely different terminology for calling plays. I don’t think the offenses were that similar. Probably different routes for receivers. Sure you can study a playbook all day long but you really only learn by calling the plays and getting tons of reps.

When a gameplan is installed for a game a team will run those plays over and over that week. Of course many are part of the offense every week but some plays, while being part of the playbook, are only used against certain teams and defenses. I realize if we run 80 plays in a game we probably only run maybe 25-30 different plays but the qb has to know formations and where everyone else has to lineup. Only having fall camp to learn the base offense is not much time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261251 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:26 pm to
Orgeron has been very forthcoming about "meddling" with the offense and neither him nor Ensminger said a word about it.

If we are following patterns, we would know.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:35 pm to
I think O knows what he wants offensively. Yeh Canada didn’t mesh and maybe he was pressured into hiring him idk but I don’t think Canada’s offense is what I wanted at LSU. I think he has a vision of what style offense he wants and the thing I like is he makes changes to improve the offense. Fans just think a year is plenty of time to do so but in reality it takes time to change.

ETA-I expect the HC to “meddle”...especially when it ducks
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:02 pm to
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So YOU want O fired right now??????

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:04 pm to
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We ran some degree of RPOs most of the year.







there was no P in our RPO.
we ran zone read plays.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:05 pm to
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We saw some RPO. 



I wish we could see some link to these rpo plays we ran.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:19 pm to
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Yeh Canada didn’t mesh and maybe he was pressured into hiring him idk but I don’t think Canada’s offense is what I wanted at LSU. I


I find it amazing that 1 year of Canada coming in with talent built to run ball control power run game is enough to make a decision on his coaching ability but O losing 4 games in 2017 is meaningless and he needs time.

hypocrisy
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:21 pm to
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I find it amazing that 1 year of Canada coming in with talent built to run ball control power run game is enough to make a decision on his coaching ability but O losing 4 games in 2017 is meaningless and he needs time.

hypocrisy


Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72899 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:22 pm to
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there was no P in our RPO.
we ran zone read plays.


ricky with the truth again
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3518 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:08 pm to
I thought they were overall pretty positive, I'm ready.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 9:05 pm to
you are such a little bitch
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 9:39 pm to
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you are such a little bitch ?





k
Posted by PP7WasInbounds
Member since Aug 2019
132 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:38 am to
Don’t respond to him.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:40 am to




Keep fighting good fight
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