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re: Does Coach O have more football smarts than he gets credit for?

Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7489 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:42 am to
he worked under Carrol before Ole Miss, not after.

the only college coaches he worked for since is Kiffin and Miles.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:12 pm to
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O went 10-21. never improved his record. never had a winning season.

My mistake. I meant Stalling's record at his first school. It was 27 wins 45 losses and 1 tie-- A 37% winning. That is not different from O at Ole Miss-- even ignoring the better resources at aTm. At yes Stallings had 1 winning season and then plummeted. Even so, proves what you thought was not possible.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:39 pm to
Well he hasnt ever ran a successful offense, defense , or program so anyone saying yes has zero evidence to back up their claim.

What was Aranda supposed to say?
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:40 pm to

He certainly is smart enough to come up with great answers to questions from the press. Hasn't put a foot wrong while appearing to speak off the cuff.

That shows alot of smarts under pressure.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:42 pm to
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That is not different from O at Ole Miss-- even ignoring the better resources at aTm. At yes Stallings had 1 winning season and then plummeted. Even so, proves what you thought was not possible.



Ha ha. Gene stallings won a conference title (swc)before being hired at bama and had been a nfl head coach. Ed orgeron has been a coach for 32 years with 29 coming as a dline coach. The other 3 years are the worst tenure in ole miss history. Let that sink in.
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:59 pm to
Shorty says, It's time to move on." get a life!
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 3:00 pm to
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What was Aranda supposed to say?

Did you bother to read the article? Aranda's comment was gratuitous and unsolicited. It's not as if he was asked, "Do you think O is a smart football coach?" Aranda volunteered the statement.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 3:04 pm to
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Ed orgeron has been a coach for 32 years with 29 coming as a dline coach.

Yes. You've posted this a dozen times. And even so, it does not negate that Aranda thinks O has a great football mind. So, your point is?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:05 pm to
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. You've posted this a dozen times. And even so, it does not negate that Aranda thinks O has a great football mind. So, your point is?



Ha ha. Whats he supposed to say? " i really think lsu made a horrible hire and cant believe they hired this position coach to go up against the most talent rich division in cfb."


Id say a bunch of untrue shite too if i was gonna be the highest paid DC in cfb.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:07 pm to
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Shorty says, It's time to move on." get a life!


Ill never move on from posting facts. Moving in will only empower our joke of an AD to make this same bullshite mistake.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7489 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:52 pm to
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That is not different from O at Ole Miss-- even ignoring the better resources at aTm. At yes Stallings had 1 winning season and then plummeted.


Stallings had only one SEASON with a win % as low as O had for his career
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18135 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:00 pm to
Football smarts doesn't necessarily mean a guy will be a good head coach.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:01 pm to
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Stallings had only one SEASON with a win % as low as O had for his career



Not to mention that his coaching was so well thought of that he was offered an nfl head coaching job. Ed orgeron wouldnt get defensive coordinator job offers at Vandy or Kentucky. The rest of the sec is laughing at lsu. The fact the ed orgeron was our 3rd choice just further proves how inept and out of their leaguepur administration is.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:02 pm to
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Football smarts doesn't necessarily mean a guy will be a good head coach.




And there is literally zero evidence that points to Orgeron having football smarts comprarable to other sec coaches.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34046 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:12 pm to
So 27-45-1 with a SWC at tamu is acceptable? No wonder you stupid frickers loved Les Miles. The reality is, you would would have shite your pants if LSU had hired Stallings under similar circumstances. I can just see you guys glossing over his conference championship (insert the reason here to downplay it, ala "interim coaching") as you hammer his overall win percentage. Again, anybody that Rickdaddy and friends could list as a potential head coach from the college ranks other than Saban or CUM, I could take a monster shite on their resume. To continually shite on a decision that is already made without any proof that it's a bad decision is lame. But I'm sure some dumb fricking grumps hated the Stallings hire as much as you hate this one. They were wrong. Let's see if you are too. Geaux Tigers!
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 8:54 pm to
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Ha ha. Whats he supposed to say?

I answered that already. Scroll up.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:02 pm to
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Football smarts doesn't necessarily mean a guy will be a good head coach.

I agree with you. That's why my question was phrased the way it was.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:08 pm to
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And there is literally zero evidence that points to Orgeron having football smarts comprarable to other sec coaches.

Speaking of smarts-- You may want to check your spelling.

Would his LSU team beating other SEC coaches' teams be evidence?
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:37 pm to
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Would his LSU team beating other SEC coaches' teams be evidence?


When did that happen? 2014 lsu won as many sec games as Ed Orgeron has in his entire career.
Surely youre not counting interim as "HIS PROGRAM". That would be absurd.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 11:45 pm to
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The reality is, you would would have shite your pants if LSU had hired Stallings under similar circumstances


We hired someone worse dumbass.
Stalling had won a conf title AND BEEN A NFL HC when he got the bama job. Its like you dumbasses really believ this isnt the most unqualified hire in big 6 history.
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can just see you guys glossing over his conference championship (insert the reason here to downplay it, ala "interim coaching") as you hammer his overall win percentage.


Again, stallings' resume pre bama SHITS on Ed Orgeron's resume.
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Again, anybody that Rickdaddy and friends could list as a potential head coach from the college ranks other than Saban or CUM, I could take a monster shite on their resum


bullshite. Because we could list someone that has actually ran a successful offense, defense, or program before coming to lsu. No coach wpuld get 100% approval but it would be better than hiring a guy that wouldnt get interviewed at vandy or kentucky. Thats the problem. The fact that our coaching search went from 2 very qualified candidates to a 55 year old career dline coach is the problem.
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To continually shite on a decision that is already made without any proof that it's a bad decision is lam

Hiring the least qualified coach in big 6 history is lame. There is zero evidence that ed orgeron can run a side of the ball successfullyn let alone run a program successfully. If youre ok with this hire youre the reason we will never reach Bama's. Being ok with this hire will just empower our joke of an administration to try this tactic again.
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But I'm sure some dumb fricking grumps hated the Stallings hire as much as you hate this one


Once again.
STALLINGS' RESUME PRE BAMA
Head coach at a&m won a conf title
Nfl head coach

ED ORGERON'S RESUME PRE LSU
Worst tenure in ole miss history(let that sink in)
Never ran a successful offense, defense or program.

The 2 hires are no where near the same.
quote:

They were wrong. Let's see if you are to


I pray i am brother.

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