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re: Does BCS have to take SEC champ and runner-up?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:04 pm to acrijk
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:04 pm to acrijk
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Didn't slive and the SEC introduce something that would allow more than 2 teams from a conference BCS bids?
Actually, yes. I found this.
"No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings."
Basically, it appears that if you are the number 1 and 2 teams, both in your conference, but haven't won your championship, the champion goes to the tie-in bowl and the other two go to the NCG
I think.
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:05 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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I'm almost positive the BCS cannot take more than two teams from the same conference. If LSU and Bama somehow end up #1/#2 and go to the BCSNCG, then the rest of the SEC are not eligible for BCS bowls. Also, when the SEC champ goes to the BCSNCG, I think the Sugar Bowl replaces the champ with an at-large team of their choosing. So, even if only LSU as the conference champion gets to the BCSNCG, then the Sugar Bowl would get to pick two at-large teams, though they almost assuredly would take Bama.
I think you're right.
But the situation I'm wondering is if Bama is sitting at 2 in the BCS rankings going into the SEC champ game weekend and we somehow shite the bed and lose to UGA/USCe, what would happen then?
Hard to justify us falling below Bama being that we beat them head to head. The other teams will all have 1 loss too. UGA will be a technical "automatic qualifier" for winning the SECCG.
What happens then?
(this is assuming OSU, OU, UO, Stanford all have at least 1 loss)
Bama and LSU could theoretically be ranked 1/2 in the BCS if this happened with UGA being an automatic qualifier, what happens?
Bama and LSU would still play and UGA would just be SOL? That would suck.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:06 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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If LSU and Bama somehow end up #1/#2 and go to the BCSNCG, then the rest of the SEC are not eligible for BCS bowls.
But what happens if LSU loses to UGA, but had such a big lead in the BCS that they stay in the top 2, and the other undefeated teams lose leaving bama in the top 2?
Then you have:
1.Bama
2.LSU
and UGA - SEC Champ
Under the rules, all 3 are guaranteed spots in the BCS.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:06 pm to TigerstuckinMS
quote:
Actually, yes. I found this.
"No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings."
Basically, it appears that if you are the number 1 and 2 teams, both in your conference, but haven't won your championship, the champion goes to the tie-in bowl and the other two go to the NCG
I think.
This is the answer I was looking for
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:07 pm to TigerstuckinMS
quote:
"No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings."
I think this answers the question...this would allow 3 teams from the same conference into the BCS.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:08 pm to tiger1014
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"No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings."
This statement is looney tunes to even think about.
Definitely not likely to happen this year, but there are definitely scenarios it could happen
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:10 pm to tiger1014
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Definitely not likely to happen this year, but there are definitely scenarios it could happen
especially in conferences without a championship game
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:24 pm to The Easter Bunny
I find it amusing that we are discussing this ad nauseum when I have answered this already three times.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:28 pm to rpg37
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I find it amusing that we are discussing this ad nauseum when I have answered this already three times.
I've followed this discussion, and haven't seen "ad nauseum" discussion of a scenario where 1v2 were from the SEC and neither be the SEC champions and what would happen to the SEC champ in that scenario.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:36 pm to tiger1014
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I've followed this discussion, and haven't seen "ad nauseum" discussion of a scenario where 1v2 were from the SEC and neither be the SEC champions and what would happen to the SEC champ in that scenario.
Well, then you missed it, multiple times. On page 1, there is three posts which identify that exact scenario and explains it thoroughly. It explains what would have to happen, how it would happen and what all scenarios would have to take place.
As far as the double-birds, are you eight years old, or just ignorant?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:38 pm to rpg37
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Well, then you missed it, multiple times. On page 1, there is three posts which identify that exact scenario and explains it thoroughly. It explains what would have to happen, how it would happen and what all scenarios would have to take place.
I don't trust ranter hearsay.
The direct quote from the rulebook did it for me though.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:38 pm to rpg37
You did explain it, but you didn't provide any evidence that led us to believe you knew what you were talking about. If you would have just copied the quote from Slive as the poster above did, you could have ended the discussion.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:42 pm to tiger1014
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I don't trust ranter hearsay. The direct quote from the rulebook did it for me though.
Alright, works for me. I'll be sure to cite common knowledge for now on. Posted on 11/6/11 at 10:57 pm to rpg37
If it were common knowledge, we wouldn't have asked or tried to answer the question.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:00 am to rpg37
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I'll be sure to cite common knowledge for now on
"I'll take obscure sports rules for 2000, Alex."
Seriously, I don't know many people that would know this rule. It was news to me. But I had never thought of the scenario.
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