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Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:58 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Danny isn't great but he's not one of the bigger problems on the team. Hard to get too upset when he's getting crushed back there.
You see yourself as a pretty smart guy. Read this entire article objectively and watch the videos of the plays in question. If you don't think he isn't one of the bigger problems on the team after reading/watching the whole review, you're either biased towards the kid and will like him no matter what, or completely delusional.
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:00 am to Tmcnair96
I think he's "hurt" by his lack of natural talent
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:03 am to the_watcher
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You see yourself as a pretty smart guy. Read this entire article objectively and watch the videos of the plays in question. If you don't think he isn't one of the bigger problems on the team after reading/watching the whole review, you're either biased towards the kid and will like him no matter what, or completely delusional.
I didn't say he was good, i just see the real problem as the head coach's lack of organization and attention to detail in preparing his team to play, this filters down to mistakes by the players such as those Danny made and those being made by the OL. Then the OL's mistakes lead to Danny getting hit and hurried repeatedly and it compounds a bad situation and makes it worse. That's where we are right now with Danny and with this team in general.
You can't tell me that if we had a solid HC and cohesion within the staff that that wouldn't translate to better play across the board and that includes the QB. Danny is a limited player but serviceable enough in the right environment.
You're focused on the symptom, not the disease.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 9:06 am
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:04 am to the_watcher
Nice snapshot. Why not post the video of the actual pass?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:15 am to rjokerlsu
I think he’s hurt but doesn’t want to lose his starting spot
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:18 am to Tmcnair96
Etling was never supposed to see the field when he transferred here. No clue why people try and convince themselves he is a good SEC QB. Just sets them up for disappointment. He definitely does not lack toughness, I'll give him that.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 9:19 am
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:19 am to BayouCowboy
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Nice snapshot. Why not post the video of the actual pass?
Nice comment. Why not watch the video of the actual pass in the link I provided above?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:21 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You're focused on the symptom, not the disease.
So you didn't read the article at all or watch any of the videos of the passing plays they are referencing. Got it
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:22 am to the_watcher
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You mean the pass where he triple clutched and threw the ball far too late to Sullivan instead of throwing it to either Williams or Gage like he should have?
That pass brushed against the entire front of Sullivan's chest. Sullivan quit on his qb. Perfect pass and no such thing as "late if it hits the recieved in his chest
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:23 am to the_watcher
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So you didn't read the article at all or watch any of the videos of the passing plays they are referencing
Yes i did jackass and again i'm telling you what you're seeing is just as much if not moreso a product of poor coaching than it is of Danny's limitations as a QB
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Yes, i did jackass and again i'm telling you what you're seeing is just as much if not moreso a product of poor coaching than it is of Danny's limitations as a QB
The coaches can't throw the ball for him. Or physically force him to stay in the pocket longer instead of bailing early. Or tell him which receiver to throw the ball to in the middle of a play. Again, if you read the entire article and watched every video, and still think he isn't the problem, you never will think he's the problem no matter what. It's plain as day for any objective human to see. You're getting smart commentary with video evidence of everything the commentary is explaining, and it's still nothing but excuses.
There have never been more excuses for an LSU player in the history of our program. Ohhhh he was hurt last year. Ohhh Les and Cam were here that didn't count. No no no he got benched at Purdue because his team wasn't good it had nothing to do with him. His deep ball comes up short because of his back. The o-line isn't good Tom Brady couldn't be good back there! Nothing but excuses.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:35 am to the_watcher
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and still think he isn't the problem,
How many times do i have to reiterate that I am not saying he's a good QB? He's very limited physically but I can look at how at the very least he had a strong mental grasp of what he needed to do back there most of the time last year and now all the sudden he's a deer in headlights.
He's a kid, it's on the coaches who are making MILLIONS of dollars to put the players in a position to be successful yet are not able to do that.
if he is just so bad that no amount of coaching can help him then he needs to be benched. But yet they still keep running him out there, why is that?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:38 am to Tmcnair96
others have noted his nagging injuries, we'll be lucky if he finishes the Auburn game given the problems on the O Line. he will get blind side hits on Saturday. sorry to say such a thing but it is reality.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:17 am to Draconian Sanctions
Because his back up is a 180 pound true freshman who was at the senior prom 5 months ago. You keep saying he was good last year. HE WASNT. We averaged 7.6 points per game vs the 3 best defenses we played. Our defense allowed 16 total touchdowns all season. SIXTEEN. Best in the country. We finished 3rd in our division.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:50 am to BayouCowboy
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Etling has been slow to get the ball out lately. Not hitting receivers out of their breaks, but waiting for them to come open. That extra second has killed him, that's when the line has broken down. Heaven forbid we give him quick easy throws.
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Agree completely. I think it was the State game when the receiver never saw the ball and Etling hit him in the facemask right after the break. Now Etling may be HAVING to wait until after the break to make sure the receiver sees the ball!!! ???
Also, according to the Advocate this morning, Etling is 100%.
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Etling has been slow to get the ball out lately. Not hitting receivers out of their breaks, but waiting for them to come open. That extra second has killed him, that's when the line has broken down. Heaven forbid we give him quick easy throws.
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The almost pick he threw against Florida to Sullivan would have been a catch in stride if Sullivan actually looked for the ball. It crossed his chest and hit the defender behind him. I can recall at least 2-3 other times this season he's thrown and the ball hit the WR and they turned too late to look.
Agree completely. I think it was the State game when the receiver never saw the ball and Etling hit him in the facemask right after the break. Now Etling may be HAVING to wait until after the break to make sure the receiver sees the ball!!! ???
Also, according to the Advocate this morning, Etling is 100%.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:53 am to the_watcher
Etling isn't hurt. If you noticed ,there were many called quarterback runs against Florida that weren't called before as much in the past.unless Canada is stupid ,etling isn't hurt. If he's hurt then that means Canada waited until etling was hurt to call more quarterback runs. These weren't read options they were plays that were 100percent qbruns.. it seems to me etling is starting to see ghosts and looking to run more..im starting to think his play is regressing.he gives it his all ,but it just seems he's missing more throws every game. Im afraid Brennan would throw 3ints though...just trust the coaches know what to do
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:57 am to the_watcher
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Because his back up is a 180 pound true freshman who was at the senior prom 5 months ago.
So what?? I was in Austin last week and went to the UT-Kansas State game. UT started a true freshman QB and he balled out, threw for almost 400 yards and ran for over 100! True Freshman.
You know what the difference is between the two situations? They have a real coach and we don't!
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You keep saying he was good last year.
AGAIN you are misrepresenting what i'm saying. I said he was good last year mentally. He showed he could make the checkdowns and read the defense. He's not very good physically but this was better than what we got out of Jennings or Harris.
Now he's abandoned all that and is playing like a chicken with his head cut off. This is symptomatic of the real problem, which is the COACHING.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:11 am to Draconian Sanctions
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:56 pm to S
The reason I asked, was because of that video that came out in the spring. I think it might've been the first video of Matt Canada and he said "Come on Danny, throw it brotha". While he's saying that, he's motioning for Danny to step in to it. Now in the spring it came out that Danny had been playing with a bad back. When I watched Danny last year and watch him this year, he's still not stepping into the throw. When he throws it, he takes a short step and it look like he's always fading back. While I don't expect him throw it like Farce, I do think that could help with the balls that float. As far as is toughness is concerned, there's no denying that he's a tough guy. But I prefer a quarterback to be tough in the pocket. While I agree that the o-line could be better, they give Danny enough time to hit his drops. The problem is that they only give him enough time for him to hit the 3-5 step drops and for the ball to be out, anything extra then the protection breaks down.
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