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re: Do you think the refs really cheat at Auburn?
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:01 am to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:01 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Its not so much that, but that the refs hate LSU.
Or eight different teams played eight full games against one of the best defensive lines in the country and not one offensive lineman for any of them committed one holding penalty. Yep, that sounds much more likely.
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Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:03 am to Tiger Phil
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Sheesh. Let's just beat them for once. Then we can all move on.
Tell me how do we score when they are allowed to grab, hold, and tackle our WRs when we get into scoring position--not to mention the phantom holding penalties when we score by running the ball.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:06 am to Bad Cat
It's not just LSU. Don't forget, Florida got the serious hose job at Auburn in 2006 to keep them from going undefeated.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:07 am to PanhandleTigah
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I highly doubt that...the SEC bigwigs did NOTHING in 2006. Why would the zebras fear them this year?
Exactly. Mike Slive is a spineless wimp. He didn't do anything about it in 2006 and he won't rock the boat if it happens this year either. We won't be safe unless we blow them out of the stadium. If the game is close in the final minutes, I don't like our chances of getting out with a win.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:11 am to xiv
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The pass was uncatchable. Contact or no contact. It was an uncatchable pass because the pass was too far behind Doucet for him to have a decent shot at the ball.
Here you demonstrate your ignorance of the rule. A "decent shot" is not the standard for uncatchability. If you had ever watched much football, you would know that receivers often make unbelievable plays that no one thought they could make. You would know that balls bounce in funny ways and lots of strange things can happen. That's why a ball is not considered uncatchable unless there is absolutely zero possibility of it's being caught. A receiver doesn't need a "decent shot" at catching it. He needs only some percentage chance greater than zero.
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That was the officials' opinion
No, it wasn't. The officials' supposed "opinion" was that the tip made it uncatchable. The tip that did not occur until AFTER the interference, which makes the tip irrelevant. In reality, to anyone with a brain, there was no opinion involved at all. It was simply necessary to wave that penalty off to insure Auburn won the game, so that's what they did.
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Now, should anything have been called?
Yes.
Two penalties.
1) Illegal contact downfield. An eligible receiver was tackled/held. Five yards, first down. This is a play that is missed probably 1/3 of the time. For it to be a no-call here is not a shocker. shite happens.
2) After the play was over, an Auburn player removed his helmet on the field. Unsportsmanlike conduct. 15 yards, first down. This also happens from time to time without being called. shite happens.
Yes. And when the same shite happens over and over and over and over and over at the same place in favor of the same team against the same opponent, over a period of multiple games, and never fricking once does "shite happen" to that team in favor of the other team, someone is cheating. If you flip a coin 50 times and it comes up heads all 50 times, it's time to examine that coin.
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They also lost because you, King Joey, won't stop whining. And your whining about this game two years later this week is hurting LSU's chances of winning.
On a board known for idiotic claims, this is a true contender for the dumbest thing ever posted.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:11 am to raparoot
yes cause they hate lsu too.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:12 am to AUCatfish
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I am friends with a football official and that's how I know that they do not let alum's do their schools games.
hmm. I won't comment anymore here, however, I know this not to be true.
I will leave it at that. Now, this may have started recently, but that wasn't always the case.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:15 am to LouisianaLonghorn
Nothing will happen to these officials...however: the longer and louder we keep this thread (and others like it) the greater the chance that the Gameday info gophers(you KNOW for a fact they lurk TD for issues) will pass it on /Gameday will mention it/ make an out and out SEGMENT on the poor calls of previous games...etc. Even if it is used as a slam against LSU as paranoid conspiracy theorists the results could be favorable
The more attn that is drawn to it here, the less likely we will have to deal with more of the same in this game on Saturday.
The more attn that is drawn to it here, the less likely we will have to deal with more of the same in this game on Saturday.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:28 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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hmm. I won't comment anymore here, however, I know this not to be true.
I will leave it at that. Now, this may have started recently, but that wasn't always the case.
What is recently? Not trying to stir the pot, but this official is retired after 20+ years.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 10:30 am to AUCatfish
dude...the refs hate the favored team. i bet uga leads the conference this year in penalties. the favored team always gets the most penalties in the sec. remember flor in 2006? lsu in 2003?
This post was edited on 9/17/08 at 10:31 am
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:00 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:I never understood how this slipped through the cracks. Touted as one of the top defenses last year and not seeing the call until the 9th game. I almost slapped myself when I saw the call. Figured I was dreaming...
Or eight different teams played eight full games against one of the best defensive lines in the country and not one offensive lineman for any of them committed one holding penalty. Yep, that sounds much more likely.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:03 am to Nuts4LSU
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If you had ever watched much football,
Nuts, don't do this shite.quote:If running the same exact route but this time unabated by a defender, Doucet would have a 0% chance of catching that ball. It was uncatchable, you are in denial, you are being pathetic, you can't let it go, and everyone with ANY authority on the matter agrees with me 100%.
He needs only some percentage chance greater than zero.
You are wrong, and I am right. Goddammit, Nuts. Let it the frick go. Just let me be right and gloat about it for the rest of my life as I will gloat for the rest of my life about having predicted 26 months in advance that John Brady would coach LSU to a Final Four.
quote:What happened was that a flag for interference was thrown. The officials correctly determined that there was no pass interference (and I'd like you to show me any evidence at all that proves this) and waved the flag off.
No, it wasn't. The officials' supposed "opinion" was that the tip made it uncatchable. The tip that did not occur until AFTER the interference, which makes the tip irrelevant. In reality, to anyone with a brain, there was no opinion involved at all. It was simply necessary to wave that penalty off to insure Auburn won the game, so that's what they did.
That is not to say that they did not make other errors surrounding that play: 1) defensive holding, and 2) unsportsmanlike conduct.
quote:2 years, no proof.
someone is cheating.
quote:I was joking, goddammit. Jesus.
On a board known for idiotic claims, this is a true contender for the dumbest thing ever posted.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:11 am to raparoot
YES
You can't win unless you score. You can't score if the Ref's keep calling bullshite calls or overlooking cheap shots and blantant molestations.
Auburn should be ashamed of their 2 last wins at home against LSU.
You can't win unless you score. You can't score if the Ref's keep calling bullshite calls or overlooking cheap shots and blantant molestations.
Auburn should be ashamed of their 2 last wins at home against LSU.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:24 am to xiv
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If running the same exact route but this time unabated by a defender, Doucet would have a 0% chance of catching that ball. It was uncatchable, you are in denial, you are being pathetic, you can't let it go, and everyone with ANY authority on the matter agrees with me 100%.
xiv, you may well be right that Doucet would not have been able to catch the pass, despite the tip. However, the real reason that Doucet was not in a position to make the play is because the Auburn defender had interfered with him and prevented him from being able to make a play on the ball. The pass would have been catchable, if not for the interference that occurred.
You can't interfere with the receiver and then argue that the pass was uncatchable, if your evidence is that the receiver was not in a position to catch the ball after he had been interfered with. That is classic circular reasoning.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:29 am to CovingtonTiger
I disagree, Covington. I see a bad pass thrown behind Doucet. Ironically, if it were a "good" pass (ie, thrown directly in Doucet's stride), it likely would have been intercepted.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:32 am to AUCatfish
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What is recently? Not trying to stir the pot, but this official is retired after 20+ years.
Sorry Catfish. I'm done with this thread!
Enjoy the game.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:32 am to CovingtonTiger
I love all this wah wah still about the refs. What makes me even happier is you idiots have your players worried about it and speaking openly and candidly that if it is close in the 4th quarter LSU is screwed and will lose. Nothing like a little distraction, woe is me, we are gonna get screwed and lose attitude by your players. 
As an AU fan you have to like that a LOT. LSU players worried about officiating, etc.
As an AU fan you have to like that a LOT. LSU players worried about officiating, etc.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:32 am to Geauxtiga
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The replay official overturned the interference and gave the ball back to Auburn. It was later discovered that the replay official was not only an Auburn alumnus, but was also a big booster to the program.
Is this a fact? If so, then wow!
How does this get in under the fence?
Do remember that just a few plays earlier they allowed an interference call in leiu of an interception.......in favor of Auburn.
This post was edited on 9/17/08 at 11:35 am
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:36 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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you idiots
hey, podnuh, go frick yourself.
Posted on 9/17/08 at 11:36 am to CovingtonTiger
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However, the real reason that Doucet was not in a position to make the play is because the Auburn defender had interfered with him and prevented him from being able to make a play on the ball. The pass would have been catchable, if not for the interference that occurred.
100% wrong. Doucet was not going to catch the ball regardless. The tip occured almost simultaneously to the contact and the tip was 3 yards in front of Doucet. Also Doucet was jumping vertically. Not three yards up field in less than half a second. The tip was going to occur regardless and the ball WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CAUGHT NO MATTER WHAT due to the tip.
Bottom line, with or WITHOUT contact the ball was going to be tipped before Doucet got to it. Period. Anybody that doesn't think so, just lacks the capacity to be objective.
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