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re: Did JJ look faster?

Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:04 am to
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:04 am to
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based on his last five starts.

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in Jefferson's last five starts

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upon Jefferson's last five starts.

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in 2009.

Why are we picking and choosing stats?
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:04 am to
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:05 am to
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Link? Video? Proof? When was the last time you saw JJ throw a pass to assume he is "there" an the other guy isn't?
Last season.

I saw it.

You saw it.

It didn't evaporate. It didn't disintegrate. It happened.

God damn, you are pathetic.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:06 am to
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Lee doesn't need JJ in order for LSU to beat Baa, just like LSU can scheme under JJ and doesn't "need" lee to beat the same team. Both could be a benefit.


I think we will need both.

Saban's philosophy is to hit the QB and take away his timing. We can affect that by playing both JL and JJ.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:08 am to
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Hard to throw TD passes when you are taken out of the game when you lead the team to the redzone, would you disagree?
How many times did Lee lead the team to the RZ to get pulled by Jefferson? How many times?

Again, not one of JJ's TD passes was set up by Lee.

Not comparing total TDs. Just TD passes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:09 am to
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God damn, you are pathetic.



. You are totally obsessed and pick an choose stats in order to support your bias. It's impossible to have a rational discussion with you on the subject of JJ simply because you don't know how to see things other than through your JJ centric views an fantasies. The only people taking your seriously are those with their heads up the same orifice.

Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:11 am to
His running skills have improved a lot over the course of his career.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:11 am to
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It's impossible to have a rational discussion with anyone on the subject of JJ simply because


Because JJ has only played what 4 snaps this year.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:12 am to
Predictable.

I don't cherry pick stats. I'm not using best games. I'm not using QB rushing yards or QB rushing TDs.

I used last three starts when Lee started three games.

I used last four starts when Lee started four games.

I used last five starts when Lee started five games.

I have even used career stats.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:12 am to
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Just TD passes.

All 4 or all 7? Which cherry picked games are we getting the stats from?
Posted by Tyger1919
Pineville
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:12 am to
Come on now, neither jj or jl are great QBs, we dont need neither one to win a game for us, we just need to start whoever makes the least mistakes
Posted by josh336
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:13 am to
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Again, not one of JJ's TD passes was set up by Lee.

what about his rushing tds?
What about when he came out of the game and someone other than JJ ran it in?

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How many times did Lee lead the team to the RZ to get pulled by Jefferson? How many times?

I'm not sure, but we both know it happened numerous times. Also why are we talking just the last 5 games, why not the season? Who had the better qb rating? I'm not denying JJ played well the last 5. He did. But to minimize what Lee did is pathetic.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:14 am to
last year vs. Florida Lee was 9/11 for 124 with 2 TD's and 0 INT's

JJ was 7/12 with 0 TD's and 1 INT and only averaged 3.8 yards per carry with his ellusive dual threat legs

clearly JJ is not needed



see what I did nitpicking stats?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:14 am to

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I don't cherry pick stats


Of course you do. Don't even start with this shite.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:14 am to
He did look faster and we will beat Bama with either QB so having both is just a bonus.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:16 am to
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You are totally obsessed and pick an choose stats in order to support your bias. It's impossible to have a rational discussion with you on the subject of JJ simply because you don't know how to see things other than through your JJ centric views an fantasies. The only people taking your seriously are those with their heads up the same orifice.
I am sorry that you feel the need to take this personally.

I state the facts. I analyze the facts.

You prefer to pretend that you sit on the fence.

You prefer to pretend that you are objective.

It's okay to have an opinion. It's okay to defend an opinion. As long as your opinion is backed up by facts and rational analysis.

My opinion is valid. It is backed up by the facts and rational analysis.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296951 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:16 am to
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He did look faster and we will beat Bama with either QB so having both is just a bonus.


I am inclined to lean this way. I don't think it matters which one LSU uses, if the game plan adjusts.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:17 am to
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I state the facts. I analyze the facts
I just did too for the Florida game
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:18 am to
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All 4 or all 7? Which cherry picked games are we getting the stats from?
The season.

Pass attempts from the entire season. TD passes from the entire season.

Would you rather just use Jefferson's and Lee's stats from just the last five games of 2010?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296951 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:19 am to
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My opinion is valid. It is backed up by the facts and rational analysis.



To you and your ilk. To no one else. You make little sense though you believe you do. Keep up the good fight though, You obviously believe JJ desperately needs your PR campaign.
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