re: Did JJ look faster?

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No, the shite makes as much sense as comparing Lee's 1st 5 games of '11 to JJ's 1st 5 of '09.

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So making retarded statements negates retarded statements? Please. How about this, don't compare, don't judge whether you think one can improve or not (because he is a fifth year senior) and take things at face value, with a different OC and see how it goes from there.

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My stance on the Jefferson thing is that if you look at his entire career as a whole, the first six games of 2010 are much more of anomaly than the standard.

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It's pretty true.

JJ in 09 took far too much criticism for simply "solid" play for a true sophomore in his first full season starting.

His poor performance through the first few games of last season only added fuel to that fire, which is where the dissenters became the loudest.

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How about this, don't compare,

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I haven't ever started any comparison of the 2, just expressed dislike for the bias of the method.

I have expressed concerns of rushing for 1/2ypc less this year and slightly less ypp although vs lesser Ds.
As usual that turns into a QB pissing match and spouting about stuff we already know, like ppg are up.

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My apologies. I read your posts and came across one that expresses my belief of this situation. No way to know who is better. My mistake.

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No biggie.

I believe the past is the past, Crowtons gone and the playing field is level.

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If someone can find the game/game data for each of the seasons in an easily downloadable format, that would help me a lot.

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just look at cfbstats.com

Just a quick look at passer efficiency, using last years overall numbers, above the 25th percentile is a rating of 143.1(+). The 25th - 75th percentile is 143.0 - 114.9. And the 75th is 114.9(-).

In his career (27 starts plus 2008 Ole Miss, so 28 games total), Jefferson has

9 games above the 25th percentile

8 games between the 25th and 75th percentiles, and

11 games under the 75th percentile.

Of those 11 games, seven came in consecutive weeks between the second and ninth weeks of the season last year. The other four were Ole Miss 2008, Vanderbilt 2009, Florida 2009, and ULM 2010.

If you look at an efficiency rating of 100.0, which is the 84th percentile, he's only obtained that rating or lower 6 times in his career and all six came in 2010 in a eight week span.

what I don't get is why the "Lee Camp " there is so much concern over the return of JJ. Miles has said JLee is the starter. As long as he continues to play well and manage the offense, he will retain his duties. There is no need to bash anything and everything JJ.

Antonio you are a very objective poster at least from my reads of your post so my question would be dont you think 7 games is a little more than a slump? I mean that is more than half a season. I could buy 2 or 3 games but 7? Not to mention the ULM game which was after the Bama game which was supposedly where he turned the corner?

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dont you think 7 games is a little more than a slump? I mean that is more than half a season. I could buy 2 or 3 games but 7?

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It's a long slump for sure, but it's in consecutive weeks. It's not like he had a history of just playing awful games prior to that period. And then he played awful for seven straight games. And then he had a great run to the end of the season.

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Not to mention the ULM game which was after the Bama game which was supposedly where he turned the corner?

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The ULM game is tricky. He played awful, but Lee played even worse (combined going 8 for 22), which signals to me that it was a factor other than QB play.