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Did he really "earn it?"
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:13 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:13 am
I was on the Orgeron train with the best of them when this whole thing began. I was sick and tired of losing games because of clock mismanagement and bad play-calling, I was sick of a stagnant offense, and I was ready for some kind of a change. So when Coach O stepped in as interim, I said, "hey, what the hell?" and rolled with it. Now, here we are, staring down the barrel of what could QUITE REALISTICALLY be a 1 or 2 SEC win season, and I'm asking everyone, since he said it himself, did Orgeron really earn anything, or was he the best of a bad situation and a familiar face and accent in a trying time? Cause I'll tell you what. Les Miles was a stubborn bastard, but his teams were never soft like this. They were physical and they were gamers. These kids don't seem to be that way. That mentality comes from coaching.
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:15 am to tybaker5
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:16 am to tybaker5
He worked his Cajun arse off to convince the right people to hire him, so in that sense, he sure did earn it.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:16 am to tybaker5
No, it was given to him by our incompetent athletic director.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:16 am to tybaker5
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:16 am to tybaker5
He didn't earn shite. He conned his way into a situation where an inept, lazy AD had no better option as an easy hire. Orgeron has been planting the seeds to set this up for years, and we're just finding out the truth of it.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:17 am to tybaker5
well, he did have that binder so....
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:18 am to tybaker5
They couldn’t find anyone better
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:19 am to jtran1988
Because they didn't try to look.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:20 am to MorbidTheClown
The frickin binder. LOL
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:22 am to tybaker5
Seemed liked every candidate ahead of him didn't want the job. So he earned it by attrition.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:22 am to jtran1988
I feel like they equally didn't LOOK. Once their first 3 plans fell through with Kiffin, Fisher, and Herman, they didn't look. The biggest mistake that Alleva made IMO is firing Les Miles before they had ANY IDEA who his replacement would be. As in a solid, committed, proven coach. That's how you end up with this shitstorm of a mess.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:23 am to tybaker5
Think about this... Orgeron admitted in a post-hire interview that Alleva had admitted to him right before the aTm game that Alleva had told him they were bringing Herman in to interview. And the very next day during the game, it "leaked" to the media that LSU and Herman had mutual strong interest.
Fat Goebbels and the Rosy Finch Boys leaked that info to the media, and it's becoming obvious. It was another sabotage to force LSU settle on Orgeron because the Ponamsky crew had the inside info that there was only one serious candidate other than O. Their plan was masterful and our AD didn't have the mental capacity to sniff it out.
Fat Goebbels and the Rosy Finch Boys leaked that info to the media, and it's becoming obvious. It was another sabotage to force LSU settle on Orgeron because the Ponamsky crew had the inside info that there was only one serious candidate other than O. Their plan was masterful and our AD didn't have the mental capacity to sniff it out.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:24 am to tybaker5
I will always go back to the teams that he beat as the interim coach and what their record was.
Missouri 4-8
USM 7-6
OM 5-7
ARK 7-6
TAMU 8-5
UL 9-4
Missouri 4-8
USM 7-6
OM 5-7
ARK 7-6
TAMU 8-5
UL 9-4
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:25 am to tybaker5
It doesn't even matter if he earned the spot or not because it's subjective. What matters is that NO ONE else was going to hire him. He had NO credentials that warranted a contract on his terms. He was BEGGING for the job (not that there's anything wrong with that) to get a chance to prove that he could run the program. I'm not mad at O at all for wanting the job and doing everything he could to get it.
I'm mad at whoever bungled the coaching search as a whole and then after deciding to give O a chance, Drew up a contract that gave a completely unproven candidate who had NO leverage over the hire an absurd protection clause that makes it cost prohibitive to fire him.
I don't understand how that is possible outside of corruption because I refuse to believe anybody in that position and with a team of high power attorneys to draw up contract language could be that incompetent. If we refused to add a buy out clause, or set it at perhaps $1 million instead of $12 million, was Orgeron going to refuse the job? Give ne an f'ing break. It's embarrassing.
I'm mad at whoever bungled the coaching search as a whole and then after deciding to give O a chance, Drew up a contract that gave a completely unproven candidate who had NO leverage over the hire an absurd protection clause that makes it cost prohibitive to fire him.
I don't understand how that is possible outside of corruption because I refuse to believe anybody in that position and with a team of high power attorneys to draw up contract language could be that incompetent. If we refused to add a buy out clause, or set it at perhaps $1 million instead of $12 million, was Orgeron going to refuse the job? Give ne an f'ing break. It's embarrassing.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:25 am to tybaker5
quote:
Once their first 3 plans fell through with Kiffin, Fisher, and Herman, they didn't look.
You think Kiffin was one of their candidates? Do you also believe he shunned LSU for Florida Atlantic?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:25 am to tybaker5
Sports radio reporting Bob Stoops is making the rounds across campuses in the NCAA visiting practices. And the rumor he is looking to assemble a potential staff to be a HC somewhere again in 2018. He was at UGA this week.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:26 am to RB10
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You think Kiffin was one of their candidates? Do you also believe he shunned LSU for Florida Atlantic?
Kiffin was never a candidate ahead of Orgeron for the LSU job
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:26 am to tybaker5
of course not. If Orgeron were from Fresno, California instead of Lafourche Parish, would he be the head coach?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:27 am to SamuelClemens
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Kiffin was never a candidate ahead of Orgeron for the LSU job
I know that. I'm asking if that other guy knows it.
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