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re: Did Chavis begin to trust his CBs in the 2nd half?

Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:23 am to
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:23 am to
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Who made them quit?


The offense made them quit.

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ut to say they didn't come out and put pressure on Miss. St. and they just "quit," is offensive to be honest. If LSU didn't do anything different in the 2nd half, it would have been another shootout. Miss. St. turned the ball over. They made errant throws.


This is what I've been calling for for a while. When you don't have the horses to rush 4 and let athleticism take over, you have to blitz and blitz often. So, we're gonna live and die by the blitz.

The best chance this team has at a championship is to take a page from the 09 saints:
Have an incredible offense
BLitz like crazy to force turnovers
Turn those turnovers into 6 pts, not 3.

We do that, there is a chance we are facing UGA in a rematch in ATL.

We continue to do the same thing we have seen, then we'll be sitting at 8-4.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:24 am to
Chavis has to let White and Robinson start at corner. It feels like the defense needs some spark, or some strength to fall back on and I think they can provide that.

Then again, even great coverage breaks down if the QB isn't being pressured. So we will have to continue to be creative with bringing pressure.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:26 am to
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Chavis has to let White and Robinson start at corner


This. Leave them on an island and blitz like crazy, but we're gonna have to get rid of Welter and Barrow. They are terrible at attacking. They are definitely more comfortable in reading and reacting.

Debo, Kwon, Tahj, and Beckwith would be great athletes for this to happen.
The dline isn't good enough for pressure on their own.


Against Manziel, I know people are gonna say not to rush and to hold back and play contain, but with our safeties and Lbers, that just isn't a smart thing to do.

It will be a shoot out, so we have to pressure Manziel to make mistakes, and he will. He is prone to mistakes. However, we must realize he's gonna hit the big play too. So our choices are to sit back and let it happen or rush and force him to make plays. If he makes all the plays under pressure without a mistake, all you can do is tip your cap to him.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 10:28 am
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:28 am to
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The dline isn't good enough for pressure on their own.


This is disappointing as hell. And you can't say it's due to being tired or lack of depth. They are getting handled from the first snap on. You could even argue that the line played better once they started rotating in the freshmen!
Posted by Captain Ron
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:37 am to
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still don't know what happened on that TD that he had decent coverage on.



All he had to do was look back and make the INT.

Our DBs are not doing a good job of getting the head turned around.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:38 am to
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And you can't say it's due to being tired or lack of depth


Well, lack of depth at DT for sure. Ego hasn't played much and we're still not sure he's starting quality. For whatever reason, DT has not been recruited or evaluated very well. Not sure which, but we have nothing but 2 upperclassmen and a bunch of FR. Should be good position for us in 2015 though.

The ends are okay. WE don't have an elite pass rusher and that kind of sucks.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:39 am to
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Our DBs are not doing a good job of getting the head turned around.



I don't care what people say, but fundamentals have been bad in the secondary since last year. That falls on Raymond IMO.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:39 am to
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We continue to do the same thing we have seen, then we'll be sitting at 8-4


As usual, you are a freaking idiot.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:41 am to
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All I've said was that we have a little talent problem on D. Last year's recruiting class was seemingly good, but it's hard to expect sophomores to anchor the team next year,


You basically said that the recruiting classes were no good and the '14 class is going to fall apart.

Now, it's hard to expect to anchor the team because they're young, but with this year, with the defense having so much youth on the depth chart, inexperience shouldn't be an excuse?

You're insane. That's the only thing I can come up with.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:47 am to
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You basically said that the recruiting classes were no good and the '14 class is going to fall apart.


No. I said that we misevaluated on a few guys and the '12 class was not very good. The '13 class is good, but those guys won't help GREATLY until 2015.

The '14 class won't fall apart, but if we lose a position coach, position coaches are the number 1 factor for recruits. It's naive to think that won't affect a few guys. We'll probably still get Brown and Paris, but losing out on hootie or another wouldn't be shocking.

Also, Fournette isn't in the bag. (Remember McKnight?) We go and lose 5 games this year, it doesn't exactly send off a positive vibe.

Now 6 year decline? Now you're just making shite up.

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, inexperience shouldn't be an excuse?



to an extent, but people are acting like it is ALL inexperience, but not talent. Some just don't have the talent.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:48 am to
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As usual, you are a freaking idiot.



yeah, because losing to UF, Bama, and A&M is totally inconceivable at this point if we make no adjustments on D.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:50 am to
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It also helped that their QB was not very accurate (if we're giving an honest assessment of the game)


I hate this line of thinking.. They looked bad in the second half so they must have just forgot how to play QB between the break? That's a load of bull and anybody claiming that should ban themselves for the rest of the year.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:52 am to
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Amari Cooper


has done nothing this year. Watch for White and Jones
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:52 am to
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eah, because losing to UF, Bama, and A&M is totally inconceivable at this point if we make no adjustments on D.


Its not. Whats inconceivable is the fact that you somehow think that because we will suffer a lot of growing pains this season on Defense, that we will have multiple losing seasons in a row.

Try to temper your fricking emotions a little. We may lose 1-3 games this year, but that doesn't mean well lose 5 next year.
Posted by bighead7
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:56 am to
This is being over thought, they are blitzing when they have a lead...The D is young and the calls are conservative until the get a 10 to 14 point lead..
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:57 am to
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that we will have multiple losing seasons in a row.


link? Where did I say we'd have a losing season?

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Try to temper your fricking emotions a little. We may lose 1-3 games this year, but that doesn't mean well lose 5 next year.



Losing 5 is a possibility next year as a new QB is ALWAYS a wild card. LSU fans should know this the best from just a mere 5 years ago.

Remember when Lee was the next great thing?

Temper your own emotions. you can't handle someone saying the truth? The truth is we probably lose our 2 best WRS, best Olinemen, QB, and top RB. Surely you don't expect the offense to be the same, or even above average unless we get extremely lucky and AJ is like Manziel or Winston.

Next year looks bad because not all of this year on D is inexperience. The good thing is I like our CBs in White and Robinson for next year and that should help tremendously. I'm sorry, but Rasco and Allen just don't seem to be those dominant ends we were hoping for and the DL haul from '13 probably won't be great until '15. DLine is the hardest position for underclassmen to contribute.

Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:58 am to
You are out of your fricking mind.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:59 am to
You're such a dumbass. Your posts are completely retarded or you are just the biggest troll ever.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:04 am to
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You're such a dumbass. Your posts are completely retarded or you are just the biggest troll ever.


What have I posted in this thread would lead you to say that?

What I've posted are facts and things that most objective people would point to as a weakness or area of concern on the team for next year.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:05 am to
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You are out of your fricking mind.


So, essentially losing our entire offense and having this defense return isn't a fair assessment that we could be staring 4 losses in the face next year?
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