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Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:24 pm to SEC Doctor
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We thinking Payton comes in for passing situations?
One of the things that the Bengal Tiger podcast guys mentioned today was that he is adjusting to having added responsibilities beyond edge rushing. Baker asks his DEs to be balanced against the run and also occasionally drop into zone coverage when they do some zone blitz exchanges with LBs. They mentioned that he’s picking it up, but some of it is new for him.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:25 pm to DalenSA
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Anxious to see Patrick Payton and DJ Pickett fit into this
Can’t wait to see Payton, Gooden, Perk and Weeks all coming after a QB on 3rd and long
Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:26 pm to LSBoosie
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Can you link these posts for me? Why do you have a problem with my analysis of the offensive line? I’ve said I think we improve at the center position, will have a slight decline at the tackle position, and it’s TBD about the guard position. Do you disagree with that?
All you do is go around & around in circles. Not once have you name any lineman by name & discussed their individual strengths & weaknesses. Nor have you even tried provide reasons for why an individual player may struggle. You just provide basic genetic responses then want to wonder why you get called out for it.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 9:40 pm to BigBrod81
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All you do is go around & around in circles. Not once have you name any lineman by name & discussed their individual strengths & weaknesses.
Again, if you can link all of the posts of me saying how bad the offensive line will be that would help. But here you go
Moore: By all accounts has been really good. As I said this position should be an upgrade over last year.
Adams & Davis: By all accounts have been solid as well. It will be hard to replace 1st and 3rd round picks, but it looks like the tackle position won’t be a weakness.
Thompson: Struggled early in camp, but seems to have been improving. Hopefully a lot of that is due to how good Gooden is.
Chester/Mubenga: were the weak spots of the OL last year. They were some of the worst graded players at the respective positions in all of college football. Neither of them have won the job and they have had to battle with Curne and Echols as well. This position is the biggest question mark on the team.
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Nor have you even tried provide reasons for why an individual player may struggle.
I don’t know exactly why they are struggling because I am not out there watching practice, so I’m not going to sit here and speculate to pretend to know.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:03 pm to LSBoosie
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Moore: By all accounts has been really good. As I said this position should be an upgrade over last year.
I think it’s pretty safe to say that’s not a “should be” at this point. As long as Moore stays healthy, he’s a significant upgrade over Chester, especially compared to last year without the experience that he has now after playing a season.
Kelly’s comments on Moore today were pretty clear. Having the right guy calling protections and leading from the middle should help this group gell.
Think about it this way- our OL was better run blocking and was more consistent overall in 2023. Why? Charles Turner. He was no star. In fact, Chester probably has some significant athletic advantages on him. However, he was smart, made the right protection calls, didn’t botch snaps and didn’t have a ton of penalties. We missed Turner’s stability badly last season.
Moore is also a significant athletic upgrade, but also has a reputation for doing those same things that made Turner valuable in 22 and 23. That should help this OL progress, and hopefully will keep whoever steps up and takes the LG job on track.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:26 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Brian Kelly still likes what he has seen from LSU's offensive line, in part because new center Braelin Moore "sets up the rest of the group for success." "This group is going to be really good."
Won’t be the first time catching BK in a blatant lie.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:28 pm to LSBoosie
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Thompson: Struggled early in camp, but seems to have been improving. Hopefully a lot of that is due to how good Gooden is.
It couldn't have been the fact that he had to adjust to learning an entirely new offensive system, terminology & teammates along the line? Not only that, the outdoor practices also had to have been an adjustment for him coming from the midwest. The heat & humidity can be stifling with pads on especially for someone who isn't used it.
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Chester/Mubenga: were the weak spots of the OL last year. They were some of the worst graded players at the respective positions in all of college football. Neither of them have won the job and they have had to battle with Curne and Echols as well. This position is the biggest question mark on the team.
Chester's struggles last season are well documented & I even touched on them earlier. Mubenga struggled getting thrown in the fire after Dellinger got injured but the last games his play progressed positively unlike Chester.
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I don’t know exactly why they are struggling because I am not out there watching practice, so I’m not going to sit here and speculate to pretend to know.
You basically just typed out that long post to say that you feel that because one position out five seems undetermined that it means their problems along the entire line? That's basically what your entire stance is based around. The "struggling" at practice at times has been greatly over exaggerated just like Nuss' "torn ACL".
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:30 pm to misey94
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I think it’s pretty safe to say that’s not a “should be” at this point. As long as Moore stays healthy, he’s a significant upgrade over Chester, especially compared to last year without the experience that he has now after playing a season.
Kelly’s comments on Moore today were pretty clear. Having the right guy calling protections and leading from the middle should help this group gell.
Absolutely. There's a reason Moore was the first player along the line who Kelly penciled as a starter & it's because of everything you just mentioned.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:35 pm to BigBrod81
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It couldn't have been the fact that he had to adjust to learning an entirely new offensive system, terminology & teammates along the line? Not only that, the outdoor practices also had to have been an adjustment for him coming from the midwest. The heat & humidity can be stifling with pads on especially for someone who isn't used it.
I have said that they can get better multiple times.
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Chester's struggles last season are well documented & I even touched on them earlier. Mubenga struggled getting thrown in the fire after Dellinger got injured but the last games his play progressed positively unlike Chester.
So what’s the problem with what I have said?
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You basically just typed out that long post to say that you feel that because one position out five seems undetermined that it means their problems along the entire line? That's basically what your entire stance is based around.
No? I have said that the offensive line has been a question mark for me, specifically because of the two guard positions. We saw last year how much 2 positions out of 5 can affect the performance of the OL.
Again, if you can link the posts in which I talk about how bad the OL will be, I might be able to help you understand further. Maybe I didn’t get what I was trying to say across correctly because it still sounds like you are misinterpreting what I am saying. It stills seems like you are upset because I have said that the OL is a question mark in my opinion.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:41 pm to LSBoosie
LSU’s offensive line IS a question mark because of the questionable Guard play right now.
There are innumerable reports and first hand accounts at practice backing up this position.
One example is the report that LSU ran 7 consecutive run plays the other day and netted zero yards.
People on this board just get upset because you are not following their narrative… then they’ll call you a liar or accuse you of something else…. which is bullshite.
If you have a conviction.. an opinion… than stick to it.
There are innumerable reports and first hand accounts at practice backing up this position.
One example is the report that LSU ran 7 consecutive run plays the other day and netted zero yards.
People on this board just get upset because you are not following their narrative… then they’ll call you a liar or accuse you of something else…. which is bullshite.
If you have a conviction.. an opinion… than stick to it.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:03 pm to LSBoosie
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I have said that they can get better multiple times.
What the hell are you even talking about? I was specifically talking about Thompson there & only Thompson.
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No? I have said that the offensive line has been a question mark for me, specifically because of the two guard positions. We saw last year how much 2 positions out of 5 can affect the performance of the OL.
Where has Thompson been a question mark in any camp reports? You keep talking about both guard positions yet only one spot seems up for grabs still.
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Again, if you can link the posts in which I talk about how bad the OL will be, I might be able to help you understand further. Maybe I didn’t get what I was trying to say across correctly because it still sounds like you are misinterpreting what I am saying. It stills seems like you are upset because I have said that the OL is a question mark in my opinion.
All you do is talk in circles & steadily contradict yourself yet you don't even see that.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:07 pm to TigerSaurus
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There are innumerable reports and first hand accounts at practice backing up this position.
Post them then.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:09 pm to BigBrod81
Thompson is the guard getting manhandled by Gooden.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:12 pm to BigBrod81
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What the hell are you even talking about? I was specifically talking about Thompson there & only Thompson.
I’m talking about the players on the offensive line. That includes Thompson and the rest of them. I think they can improve. Not sure how that is confusing.
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Where has Thompson been a question mark in any camp reports? You keep talking about both guard positions yet only one spot seems up for grabs still.
Quote below was pull directly from a practice report last weekend:
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However, competition continued to exist at the two guard sports. Chester and Thompson are still the starters. Both Paul Mubenga and Coen Echols figure to challenge the two starters for playing time. Thompson is the starter who could lose his starting job for the Clemson game.
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All you do is talk in circles & steadily contradict yourself yet you don't even see that.
For the 4th time now I am asking you to please link all of the posts in which I have talked about how bad the offensive line will be. You claimed that’s what I’ve been doing for the past two weeks. You keep saying I’m talking in circles but I have asked you to do this multiple times and you haven’t done it.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:12 pm to TigerSaurus
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Thompson is the guard getting manhandled by Gooden.
Link???
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:21 pm to LSBoosie
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Quote below was pull directly from a practice report last weekend:
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LSU has operated with a first-team offensive line consisting of LT Tyree Adams, LT DJ Chester, C Braelin Moore, RG Josh Thompson and RT Weston Davis across the first five practices.
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LSU is looking at four players competing for key reps at guard, Kelly stated on Monday.
"Yeah, there's four guys. Paul (Mubenga), DJ (Chester), Coen Echols, and (Josh) Thompson. So those four guys are 1A, 1B right now," Kelly said.
"They're just rolling in and out. We've kind of established Braelin Moore as the center. And so those four guys are working, and DJ would be our No. 2 center. So it's a four-man rotation right now with those guys."
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“Some of it is because we’re trying to develop depth along the offensive line,” Brian Kelly said. “It’s not necessarily the starters. It might be an Ory Williams, might be a Carius Curne, a Brett Bordelon at the center position. So, my eyes go towards those guys that maybe we don’t watch as much. Because everybody’s got their eyes on the starters. I can watch them on film, very rarely do we get the opportunity to evaluate those younger players in a technical standpoint.”
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“I try to keep an eye on the depth and the guys that we’re gonna need,” Kelly said. “In case we have some injuries. So, my focus is primarily on each drill, the next guy in. What is he doing?"
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:45 pm to BigBrod81
You obviously have me confused with Misery97.
He is the guy who seems to run all around at your request or beckon call… It certainly is not me.
I’m not going to go out and search for what I read about 1 week ago. Not what I wish to do with my time and I can’t remember if it was NOLA or what specific site it came from… but I’m thinking it came from this board itself.
*** I don’t read articles and memorize where they came from so I can justify my citing the article’s comments at a later time to posters on this board ***
Yeah… just call me crazy.
You can either take me at my word or not.
I have no reason to lie…It really doesn’t matter much to me.
But … if you are interested… the article noted:
Gooden was manhandling Thompson and Chester was having extreme problems in pass protection to the point Mubenga was getting more time.
NOW…that time has passed… it seems Echols is getting his shot at LG and Mubenga was a washout.
As I’ve stated on other posts repeatedly…*** one post directed to you and Misery97 earlier tonight….Kelly has stated the G position is a 4 man race (Mubenga, Thompson, Echols and Chester).. no one else noted although I would love for Curne and Bordelon to enter the race…. but it seems Kelly is not open to those players and they are designated as Backup Tackles right now at least.
1) In my opinion Thompson remains at RG.
2) Mubenga is the poorest of the 4 and I wouldn’t play him unless in mop-up duty.
That only leaves really 3 linemen for 2 spots. Mubenga’s weak play hurts the G depth.
3) Echols will hopefully beat out Chester … I say this because Chester has been in there since spring at Center and Guard… he gets blown back in Pass Coverage and it’s time for someone else.
Echols looked good in the bowl game and deserves a shot !!
I think that addresses everything.
He is the guy who seems to run all around at your request or beckon call… It certainly is not me.
I’m not going to go out and search for what I read about 1 week ago. Not what I wish to do with my time and I can’t remember if it was NOLA or what specific site it came from… but I’m thinking it came from this board itself.
*** I don’t read articles and memorize where they came from so I can justify my citing the article’s comments at a later time to posters on this board ***
Yeah… just call me crazy.
You can either take me at my word or not.
I have no reason to lie…It really doesn’t matter much to me.
But … if you are interested… the article noted:
Gooden was manhandling Thompson and Chester was having extreme problems in pass protection to the point Mubenga was getting more time.
NOW…that time has passed… it seems Echols is getting his shot at LG and Mubenga was a washout.
As I’ve stated on other posts repeatedly…*** one post directed to you and Misery97 earlier tonight….Kelly has stated the G position is a 4 man race (Mubenga, Thompson, Echols and Chester).. no one else noted although I would love for Curne and Bordelon to enter the race…. but it seems Kelly is not open to those players and they are designated as Backup Tackles right now at least.
1) In my opinion Thompson remains at RG.
2) Mubenga is the poorest of the 4 and I wouldn’t play him unless in mop-up duty.
That only leaves really 3 linemen for 2 spots. Mubenga’s weak play hurts the G depth.
3) Echols will hopefully beat out Chester … I say this because Chester has been in there since spring at Center and Guard… he gets blown back in Pass Coverage and it’s time for someone else.
Echols looked good in the bowl game and deserves a shot !!
I think that addresses everything.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 12:02 am
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:59 pm to TigerSaurus
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Kelly has stated the G position is a 4 man race (Mubenga, Thompson, Echols and Chester).. no one else noted although I would love for Curne and Bordelon to enter the race.
That is incorrect. The only thing Kelly stated is that they had been rotating guys at those positions as an evaluation process & to prepare those who will be backups to step in play in case of injuries during the season.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:08 am to BigBrod81
Thanks. I’ve listened to the Brian Kelly press conferences as well. Not sure what any of that has to do with what I posted though. I’ll ask a few final questions and if you can answer them, I’ll leave you alone.
1) Will you please link all of the posts over the last 2 weeks in which I talk about how bad the offensive line will be? I’m assuming the answer to this is no, but I figured I’ll ask for a 5th time.
2) Are you upset that I said I believe the offensive line is a question mark going into the year?
3) Do you still believe that Nuss throws the worst deep ball in all of college football like you stated last year?
Simple yes or no answers to each of these will suffice. Thanks.
1) Will you please link all of the posts over the last 2 weeks in which I talk about how bad the offensive line will be? I’m assuming the answer to this is no, but I figured I’ll ask for a 5th time.
2) Are you upset that I said I believe the offensive line is a question mark going into the year?
3) Do you still believe that Nuss throws the worst deep ball in all of college football like you stated last year?
Simple yes or no answers to each of these will suffice. Thanks.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 12:09 am
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