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re: Daniels is not a “running QB”

Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by GarlandTiger
Garland, Tx.
Member since Dec 2007
356 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:25 pm to
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The offense will be built around the threat of him running. Call it whatever you want


I don’t feel good about this. BAMA will shutdown Daniel’s running ability and may even tackle him for a big loss. Then we will be faced with 2nd and 15 or 3rd and 10 and he will have to stand in the pocket and deliver bullets downfield for a first down to keep the drive alive.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58883 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:25 pm to
When you answer my question I’ll answer more of yours.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:27 pm to
No he wasn’t, it’s a stupid term.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68624 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:29 pm to
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He passes way more than throws

So does Lamar Jackson and so did Lamar Jackson in college. Outside the few teams that still run triple option offenses, this is the case for every QB in the country. For reference, Jackson had 202 carries (non-sack plays) and 430 passing attempts in 2017. That's a 32/68 run/pass split. Daniel's last year had 112 carries (non-sack plays) and 301 passing attempts. That's a 27/73 run/pass split, not too far off from Jackson. Burrow's splits were 80 carries and 527 passing attempts for a 13/87 run/pass split, and I think we'd all agree in college that Joe would have been considered a mobile QB.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58883 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:29 pm to
Lmao I’ve said Nuss looked like the best of the 3 after the spring game and never predicted a starter. Said all 3 could’ve started up until Brennan left a day or two ago.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58883 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:30 pm to
Ok thanks for confirming you have no idea what you’re talking about and are in fact trying to redefine the term.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:37 pm to
You were on the Brennan bus all the way. And were dead wrong
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:41 pm to
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He is a QB that can run. The fact that he will be faster than other teams opposing defenses sans maybe a corner doesn’t mean he can’t throw. It’s not a pie chart where running ability takes away from passing ability.




If he isn't a running QB this year LSU fricked.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:42 pm to
He’s not a very good passing one either. Y’all better he not the starter. Gonna be long year if so I believe.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:44 pm to
I see English isn’t your first language. Understandable but you’re still wrong. He is a good passer and has insane athleticism
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58883 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:44 pm to
So go find the post where I said he was the starter and there was no competition, I’ll wait…….
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:45 pm to
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He’s not a very good passing one either. Y’all better he not the starter. Gonna be long year if so I believe.


Daniels is a good QB in the right system. This is the correct system just not the correct players to run the system.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2709 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

okay = pro style qb not okay = scrambling qb

Not okay - scrambling QB that struggles with accuracy.
Most desirable- pro style that can scramble (aka burrow)
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58883 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:53 pm to
He’s an elite runner or maybe a hair below elite but, no matter what his fanboys say, hasn’t shown he can make the throws he’ll need to move the chains vs the upper level SEC defenses. It doesn’t mean he can’t be successful. Tebow wasn’t a good passer either but their offense was designed with a run threat good enough to force teams into man coverages and if we can do that he can succeed.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Malik Willis' 2 seasons at Liberty?
2020: 141 rushes, 944 yds, 14 tds
2021: 195 rushes, 878 yds, 13 tds

Kyler Murray:
2018: 140 rushes, 1000 yds, 12 tds

Jayden Daniels at Oregon:
138 rushes, 710 yds, 6tds





Both of those guys can throw the football with accuracy from the pocket.

By both I don't mean Jayden Daniels
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7125 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:56 pm to
You just listed four dual-threat quarterbacks that run hybrid-style offenses.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:59 pm to
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He’s an elite runner or maybe a hair below elite but, no matter what his fanboys say, hasn’t shown he can make the throws he’ll need to move the chains vs the upper level SEC defenses. It doesn’t mean he can’t be successful. Tebow wasn’t a good passer either but their offense was designed with a run threat good enough to force teams into man coverages and if we can do that he can succeed



Correct which is why they will do to him in the SEC what they did to him in the PAC 12.
Crowd the line to stop any running ability and make him make precise accurate passes. Which he has a hard time of doing.
Team will play zone and blitz which is what I seen alot of wheni watched his tape.
Make him make accurate mid range throws.
Teams thrive and are successful on the mid range stuff.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:01 pm to
So you know more than Kelly?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58883 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:02 pm to
Daniels ran Zak Hill’s offense, the same one he ran at Boise State, so this idea the OP is pushing that he was in a “Les Miles type system” is totally false.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 2:05 pm
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:02 pm to
I don’t have to link, I remember you being bullish on Myles and dead wrong.
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