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re: Curious: how many people here expect an LSU beat-down of Oregon?

Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:28 pm to
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jesus


I know. It was over the top. However, I have to match your rhetoric somehow.



This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290886 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:30 pm to
Pep was one of the worst starting DL at LSU the last 10 years. If you are going to pretend like you know what you are talking about, at least get the facts straight.
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
42735 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:30 pm to
we will probably both be a little disappointed in a lot of areas since it will be the first game..

beware of an early 10 point lead though, that pretty much means the Ducks are screwed
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:31 pm to
Yeah, and Pep actually played a lot.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290886 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:32 pm to
doesnt mean he was good. Whoever replaces him will be an upgrade.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:35 pm to
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doesnt mean he was good. Whoever replaces him will be an upgrade.


That's not possible though Lester...Oregon won't get upgrades.
Posted by tigahbait62
Da Booty Club
Member since Nov 2009
1788 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:40 pm to
Our D line will be better than what Auburn had last year. Book it cause it's going to give you fits come Septembee 3rd. Look, the SEC has fielded 5 Straight National Champs and everytime there has been instances where the offenses on the opposing teams could not adjust to the strength, speed, and depth of the defensive front. Teams from other conferences(PAC 12 included) can not do what they have done in their conference and put up video game numbers. Overall, Auburn was not a traditional SEC championship team last year in that it did not field a premiere defense as in years past such as LSU, Florida, Alabama had. Oregon has a great team. There is no question about that but they could not handle a schedule such as LSU's schedule year in and year out. Oregon would not enjoy the same success on offense if it has to play in the SEC. Jeffersons numbers were bad last year for a number of reasons besides just Crowton and it showed when we played out of conference against Texas A&M..they got blown away and it surely didn't look like the 112th ranked passer in the country. A hudge factor in that is the quality of defenses in our league and how that had hurt Jefferson's production. After the game, you will be shocked at how talented of a quarterback Jefferson was. He will put up better numbers than Thomas because our defense is just plain better. It wont be a blowout. That is just plain stupid to predict a blowout in an opener such as this one. Don't be shocked when LSU handles your offensive line and it kills your Offense. Offense wins games but defense wins championships and that's why our league is undefeated and unintimidated against all the offensive hype carried into games against our top schools in our league. I might be wrong but 5 straight National Championships says otherwise and until I see otherwise I will continue to put an asterisk besides those juiced up stats on the offensive side of the ball. Are you going to the game?
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:45 pm to
I actually have predicted that Oregon will lose marginally and have a lot of respect for you defense. However, I in no way think that you will hold us to 2.2 yards per attempt. You just don't have what Auburn had in their interior last year. Auburn was the SEC champ and part of that was totally stopping the run in the SEC. They were the best rush defense.

Furthermore, you guys lose your NFL caliber Mike, and DT. Plus your dline isn't exactly big.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:47 pm to
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Furthermore, you guys lose your NFL caliber Mike, and DT. Plus your dline isn't exactly big.


First games are difficult for a variety of reasons. I don't think much of what we are discussing here is meaningful. The team that is the best prepared, and has fewer turnovers wins.

Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:50 pm to
Yeah, but their really isn't much of a correlation between Auburn's rush d last year and LSU's this year. Other than the two dlines are in the SEC.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24963 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:52 pm to
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Your dline will not do what Auburn did


I see them doing a comparable job. Given that your OL won't be equal to last year's. LSU won't have to be as tough on the interior as Auburn to finish last year to produce the same results. I'm thinking a Boise St. effort will be sufficient.

Scheme will have as much to do with producing similar results as talent will.

quote:

Please bring it when you talk to me


I can see you follow the sport, but you won't find many on this board that view as much tape as I do. It's all just supposition at this point. Historically speaking, you've got very little to say.

But, it's not stopping you.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:57 pm to
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see them doing a comparable job. Given that your OL won't be equal to last year's. LSU won't have to be as tough on the interior as Auburn to finish last year to produce the same results. I'm thinking a Boise St. effort will be sufficient.

Scheme will have as much to do with producing similar results as talent will.


Remember, Oregon needs the smallest of creases to go off on a defense. There were many times last year that our oline looked better than they were because of LMJ's vision and ability to run through the slightest of creases. Btw, this oline will be better than last year's but it's a matter of when it comes together. The peices are more athletic and stronger individually.

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quote:


Please bring it when you talk to me




I can see you follow the sport, but you won't find many on this board that view as much tape as I do. It's all just supposition at this point. Historically speaking, you've got very little to say.

But, it's not stopping you.


It was a response to circular logic. I can't stand rhetoric (i.e., we are better than auburn so we will stop you). It was tongue and cheek more than anyting. What exactly makes your better. Your secondary is better but will that make you better against the run?

This post was edited on 8/8/11 at 12:00 am
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4643 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 11:58 pm to
Go look at auburn wins last year. Very little was won based on that d. Case and point the Arkansas vs auburn game and then Kentucky vs auburn game.
Posted by tigahbait62
Da Booty Club
Member since Nov 2009
1788 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:02 am to
Dude well just have to see. We are going to completey disagree now and you will see what I'm talking about. Your alot better than Ohio State or Notre Dame fans...they were so delusional when we played them it made me sick. IMHO a good season in the SEC is just light years harder than in other leagues. Auburns D was nowhere near the talent level than ours and it's gona take you playing against real powerhouse teams to realize that I understand that. Auburn was just 180,000 grand away from being a 8-5 football team. They are nowhere near the talent on D as LSU Bama and others. They had Fairley and yes he was a stud but overall it'd be a laugher to compare depth, and athletisim especially on the defensive front. And at corner....not even close. We had Glenn Dorsey a couple years back you would have worshipped him more than Fairley I promise you.
This post was edited on 8/8/11 at 12:04 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:08 am to
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Yeah, but their really isn't much of a correlation between Auburn's rush d last year and LSU's this year. Other than the two dlines are in the SEC.


How do you know? You seen them play against decent competition? I sure haven't.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:11 am to
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Dude well just have to see. We are going to completed disagree now and you will see what I'm talking about. Your alot better than Ohio State or Notre Dame fans...they were so delusional when we played them it made me sick. IMHO a good season in the SEC is just light years harder than in other leagues. Auburns D was nowhere near the talent level than ours and it's gona take you playing against real powerhouse teams to realize that I understand that. Auburn was just 180,000 grand away from being a 8-5 football team. They are nowhere near the talent on D as LSU Bama and others. They had Fairley and yes he was a stud but overall it'd be a laugher to compare depth, and athletisim especially on the defensive front. And at corner....not even close. We had Glenn Dorsey a couple years back you would have worshipped him more than Fairley I promise you.


I watch the SEC every saturday because that is all CBS shows. I know what you have. Your interior is not as good as Auburn's last year. Clayton, Blanc and Fairly were all 300+ and seniors at DT. They also had seniors Goggans and Carter at end along with the high regarded new recruits like Eguae at DE that were 260 pounds +. They were better against the run.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:23 am to
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. I know what you have. Your interior is not as good as Auburn's last year. Clayton, Blanc and Fairly were all 300+ and seniors at DT. They also had seniors Goggans and Carter at end along with the high regarded new recruits like Eguae at DE that were 260 pounds +. They were better against the run.



Right. Because LSU's defense will be exactly like it was last year.

Jesus....
Posted by tigahbait62
Da Booty Club
Member since Nov 2009
1788 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:25 am to
They will not be better come september and Auburn had an adequate defense to get by featured by their d line but in no way should u crown that team and especially the defense. They ran an unconventional offense centered around one person that noone could figure out. We played awful as a defense...by far our worst game of year on D. Auburn will go back to being Auburn and maybe win 6 games. LSU started 4 freshmen on D. Them being undersized is perfect for the offense Oregon runs and the overall team speed will make the option and short passing attack unimposing.

30-17 LSU
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13995 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:29 am to
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Right. Because LSU's defense will be exactly like it was last year.

Jesus....


You think your interior run defense in the first game of the season will be better than last year's replacing Nevis, Pep, and Sheppard? I, mean, seriously you think that? I guess it's possible but is it realistic?

Oregon is replacing one player that got drafted and no one here thinks we'll be better. The 3 guys on our dline were undrafted and undersized. However, you are going to replace two 1st day draft picks out of your 4 interior spots and 3 seniors to boot but will be better?
This post was edited on 8/8/11 at 12:32 am
Posted by tigahbait62
Da Booty Club
Member since Nov 2009
1788 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 12:34 am to
Yes lol
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